Two things that did shock me from this whole article was how the campuses and courts don't do much for these rapes. Women shouldn't have to continue at a college that has brought them nightmares and had scarred them for life. The second reason was how these men don't get correctly punished. This problem isn't campuses but also politics and government that should be taken more seriously and better punishments to learn their lesson for real. Women should not be scared to talk and speak to an authority. We need to learn to stand up, learn how to fight, and not be scared to speak. We have the right of speech why not put use to it.
I agree with your way of thinking when it comes down to rape victims not being afraid and reporting their rape experience, but I don't really think it is coming forward what they're afraid of. I think victims choose not to come forward or speak because they are afraid of not being believed by others including the college and even the police. -Mirna Coronado
I agree with what you are saying. People wonder why rape cases aren't as many as they should be but to be honest it's because the police or people they tell won't believe them. In the article it says that Tucker Reed wouldn't take a young girl's rape case because he "thought" that no one would believe her even though she had the proof to back her case up. However he replied to her by saying that the jury would never believe her.
Campuses and courts should do something to change this. She's right about men not being punish correctly also they just get few months of prison or something. Women shouldn't be scared to speak up also, if they don't speak up they wont get what's right.
I agree with what you said. The rapists usually don't get convicted until a while after the accident because most victims are too afraid to speak up. These victims shouldn't have to live in fear in their campus. I feel like rape isn't being taken seriously at universities. These people should learn that rape isn't an action that should be kept hidden. its a serious crime, and can sometimes make a person kill themselves, and it could make the rapists be able to rape more women. They should also have male rape victims speak out. But since rape isn't being taken as serious as it should be, people aren't speaking out.
I agree with a lot of what you said. I think that we all need to come together and fight to stop rape. Victims don't need to go to sleep every night or go by their daily life knowing they got raped. A lot of colleges and courts don't really care and that's what victims fear. Even though courts and colleges don't care women should still speak up about what happened to them, there is going to be at least one person or a few people that would listen to that person.
Who says every rape victim is a woman and every rapist is a man? There was a case at university of phoenix where a male student was raped by another man, and there have been plenty of cases with a female sex offender. But you're right; convicted rapist should be punished harder. High end communities, such as colleges, have a tendency to cover up crimes to avoid the government and negative attention from the media to protect their reputation. In one of the pictures it says, "teach your son not to rape." I agree with this. Rapists obviously do what they do for a reason. The reason being their parents were not very involved throughout their children's lives. There have been some cases, however, in which there were psychiatric problems, but they should still be contained in an institution. You say that "we need to stand up?" Well, Hillary supporters, standing up wouldn't be as much of a problem with an instrument of self defense (weapon). When I say weapon I mean one of any sort, Such as a knife or a gun. I think there should be an easier and better way to report a rape, or a meeting dedicated to rape or sexually assaulted victims so that the victims can talk to other victims so they know they're not alone.
I agree with what she said as in we have the right to freedom of speech and how the colleges and courts do not do much to punish these rapist. The consequence should be so severe that the thought of rape would never come into anyones mind. But also there can be male victims and female victims but in my opinion there all the same. Rape is rape and it simply doesn't need to continue to happen especially at a rate of 1 into every 2 students.
I totally agree with her. Men should get punished for what they have done to girls. Girls should also not be afraid to stand up for themselves. They should find someone to speak to and tell them what they've been through and something should be done to stop all these sexual assaults.
I agree with you, I don't feel victims are afraid of coming forward. They are more afraid of being ignored, pushed to the side, or made to believe it was their fault just so the school could cover it up.
One thing that did shock me was that the colleges didn't have that much evidence of the rapes because of their sports program. You all are on the right track too. I believe that rape is always a bad idea too.
Mirna Coronado 1A One of the main things that shocked me from this article was the fact that fewer then 1 out of 3 sexual assailants are expulsed or expelled from the college after being reported and found guilty. This immediately makes you believe or at least assume that the college isn't doing a great job at giving those responsible for rape the consequences they deserve. I later on realized it made sense once I realized that the percentage of cases that were underreported (63% which was the second thing that shocked me the most) was much greater then the number of reported cases. If only more rape cases were actually reported then maybe the number of sexual assailants expulsions would increase and maybe then encourage them to develop better ways of punishing them and more frequently.
YES! These people need to be punished harsher. They don't deserve opportunities like college. I would not feel safe in a place where I know a rapist studies. I could easily be the next victim.
Rebecca Mammmo 5B I agree with what you said, schools are not doing enough to protect victims and to punished the rapists. If schools were doing enough there would have been less rape happening in colleges. Rape would have been something all student were afraid of instead of feeling like they could get away with it.
savonna arhin 3A This is so true, more cases need to be reported so that the issue can be handled accordingly. The more cases that are reported the bigger and more important the issue will become. Every rapist needs to be held accountable for their actions and not given kitty sentencing's such as 3 months.
More cases need to be reported. Everyone that has rapes should never get off with it people really get traumatized by it. Nobody deserves to have their privacy violated in this way.
One thing that shocked me the most was that North Carolina doesn't consider anal penetration in its rape law, or that if the male doesn't orgasm it's not considered rape. In my opinion anything that the female or the male doesn't want to do anything sexual is still considered rape. Just because its not the way the orthodox way of doing it doesn't make it right for anyone to do such a thing. It's also really idiotic to tell a girl that she wasn't raped knowing that she was raped but just because the man wasn't pleased it automatically means that she wanted it or that its okay for him to do. Another thing that makes me sick is that Brock Turner only was sent to jail for three months for fingering a girl that didn't want to have sex with her. Just because he didn't put in a certain organ in her doesn't mean she deserves it. He should have gotten at least 5 years for that because in no way, shape, or form will that be okay for anyone to do to any human being male or female.
I agree with everything that you're saying. If anyone doesn't consent to do anything sexual they should still get charged with rape. They should get the same amount of time as other rapists.
I agree, the laws need to be changed. If the victim was forced, then it should be considered rape. It shouldn't matter if there was no penetration by an organ or if he didn't orgasm. The laws should also be more punishing; Brock Turner shouldn't spend only three months in jail for fingering an unconscious girl.
One thing that shocked me the most is that rape is the most underreported crime. It happens all over the world and even in a learning environment yet people choose not to report it. Another thing I read that shocked me was that the law requires a witness to prove someone guilty of rape. Rape is a crime that doesn't usually occur in public, so how are there suppose to be witnesses.
I agree that rape should be reported. However, the victims have very good reasons not to such as not being believed and having their family find out. It's a very difficult position to be in, so I understand even though it's wrong.
I agree with all that you said and yes during the incident there are usually no witnesses around. So I don't agree with the police saying that there has to be witnesses so that the attacker could punished.
It was very shocking to read that at some schools, the rate of sexual assault was as high as 1 in 2. I wasn't aware that something as horrible as this happens as often as it does because it shouldn't. Also, when the accused is found guilty(which is difficult to prove), the assailant gets a very lenient sentence. That comes to me as a surprise since I don't think that a lenient sentence will prevent them from doing it again. I believe that they deserve a punishment worse than that.
I agree with what you are saying. Rape happens very often and to a lot more people than we think. We should definitely be giving out harsher punishments and stricter laws on college campuses. If we need to decrease rape stats, there should be much more punishments so people will be scared of doing it in the first place.
The first fact in the article that shocked me was that only 63 percent of sexual assaults are never reported to the police. It's the most underreported crime which shouldn't be right. These victims need to speak out and not let the rapist get away with it. The second fact that shocked me was that just because the rapist use there finger to sexually assault a person they don't get charged with rape but a lesser charge. If anyone doesn't want to be touched in any sexual way than they should get the same punishment as rape.
I agree with you, victims should be able to speak up and tell their stories. They shouldn't have to hide their stories when the man gets to live his life with what he had done to her and doesn't get charged enough for what he has done. Rape should be defined by the stores the women is telling not by the law the man has set up.
I agree with Roberto on this one. It doesn't matter if the person was unconscious, or if the offender used their finger. If they DID NOT consent, then it is rape. It's wrong and plain disturbing that someone would even think about doing that to someone. It frustrates me that someone can do that and get away with it.
One thing that surprised me when I read the article was, 63% of sexual assaults are reported to the police. Most people I know say that if they got raped or sexually assaulted then they would want that person in jail for the rest of their lives. I agree ,because I would never want anyone to go through what I would go through if I was raped. To protect ourselves, these people need to go away so they wont harm anyone. This is not okay. We need more people to open up or its just going to be buried in our minds. Memories like that never go away. Another thing that surprised me was that after colleges find the students guilty of sexual assault, they usually don't get expelled. These men should be PUNISHED!! They don't deserve opportunities like college. They are disgusting and ignorant.
I agree with you. They need to be punished even if its the slightest type of rape. They should listen no means no. they shouldn't have the power to traumatize women and make them feel worthless just so they can get off. its not right.
I agree with Kierra. Rapist should always be punished for their horrible actions. Rape victims should open up, and use their voice as a platform in hopes to make more people aware & also to give them reassurance that's it's okay to speak about the subject.
The first thing that shocked me was California is one of many states that people define it as a rape state, but lawmakers are trying to change that. What also shocked me was that North Carolina and New York do not consider anal penetrations in its rape laws. Rape is the most underreported crime, according to the National Sexual Violence Resource Center. A lot of sexual assaults aren't reported to the police. The numbers of rape crimes reported are very low especially in college. A reason why women don't report this is because they are scared nobody will believe them.
Two things that really shocked me in the article is the fact that some of these boys didn't get arrested for rape for the dumbest reasons. Like it wasn't rape cause he didn't orgasm, and the other being it wasn't rape cause it was a foreign object. I don't understand how that's not rape, she didn't consent so It was rape and they should've been arrested of it. this is the reason why many girls are afraid to speak up. its not taken as serious as It should be.
Sabrina Washington 3A I agree with Laura its not taken as serious as it should be. If you don't give your consent then its rape. He should of been arrested and punished.
I agree the definition of rape is too outdated. It was made in a time where women were basically considered objects. I say anything without consent is rape. That's what pretty much everyone grew up believing I don't see why it's not written that way
I was shocked that 1 through 5 women may experience sexual assault at college and some was as high as 1 in 2. That is very shocking sexual assault should not occur at all. College should be a safe place. Its not cheap to attend college so I would expect a safe environment. I was also shocked that 63% percent of sexual assaults are never reported. If anyone gets sexually assaulted it should be reported. No one deserves to be violated period. NO MEANS NO if you did not give your consent then the punishment should be a minimum of five years. Women have the right to receive justice.
That was another thing I was shocked at too. About how afraid some females are to report their rape because someone may not believe them. College should be safe place whether it's down the street from your house or 3,000 miles away.
I was also shocked that that many women are assaulted in college. That is such a high number. It's like thinking that 1 out of 5 of your friends will be assaulted and it pains me to think about that. something needs to happen to change that number.
One thing that surprised me was the rate of sexual assault. It's crazy to think that 1 in 5 women will experience it to some degree in college. Even if the definition of "sexual assault" isn't as severe as rape (in some cases) that's still an insane amount of people being assaulted. The second thing I found shocking was how hard it was to prosecute someone being charged for rape. Only 63% of the assaults are reported to police, and then you only have a few of those actually leading to jail time. That's ridiculous especially if it can take up to 2-4 years to finish the trial, and in that time only 1/3 of people accused of rape are expelled and only half suspended. You can get expelled and suspended for less here at Antioch.
I one hundred percent agree with you. That rape is going at an exponential rate. Rape reports need to be sent in as soon as possible, but even though you report it a couple cases actually go through.
Shelby Chapman 3A Two facts that shocked me about the article was when they only gave the boy 6 months in jail because it wasn't considered as rape. For it to be rape he had to have raped her with his penis, but he had raped her with his fingers. It's also shocking about California's definition of rape is very narrow. It's not considered as rape if the victim is not penetrated with a penis. I don't think that's right. If it was with either a penis or a foreign object by force and the victim is saying stop and the person penetrating the victim doesn't stop, it should be considered as rape.
I agree with you because, I think if I were to put myself in the raped persons point of view it would be very uncomfortable to have been raped, looked for justice, and received none. it takes a lot of courage to report a rape attack and for the law to do nothing it just isn't right. That's not law to me.
Ceriah Hudson 3A I was very shocked about to hear about California's definition of rape. Regardless on if he used a foreign object(finger), or his sexual organ if it wasn't consensual then it's rape in my opinion. The sentence time shouldn't have been reduced because of that reason at all. Secondly I was shocked by the short amount of time he was sentenced in jail. He's done a lifetime amount of emotional & mental damage to that girl and he's only being held for 6 months. That's just not right in my eyes because she'll always have that horrible memory that'll live on with her forever.
I agree with you, using any type of body part or object to sexually assault someone that is not wanting , is rape! Everyone should have the same punishment if they commit the crime . I was also shocked about the short amount of time Brock Turner got sentenced , just because he was a college student and had "goals" he is not any different than any other ordinary guy that commits the crime of rape so therefore he should be sentenced a very long time just as other criminals are.
Reta Fouad I don't agree to your definition of rape. What you explained sounds more like sexual assault than it is rape. Rape is sexual intercourse without consent (must be opposite sex based on state laws), but sexual assault is any sexual contact that is forced on somebody (by a man or woman). Either way, I feel like these sexual crimes should be dealt with better by the government, and also by schools since they're hiding these crimes.
Brock Turner sexually assaulted an unconscious woman, and he was only sentenced 6 months, but only spent 3 months on good behavior. This scared me. Someone dealing drugs is sentenced to years in jail while a sexual assaulter only get 6 months? Legally, Turner isn't a rapist. This needs to be changed so he and others can be sentenced a more deserving time in jail. The fact that only 63 percent of sexual assaults are reported, yet prosecutors often don't take the cases also shocks me. 63 percent is already a lower number than it should be, and still most of those cases aren't pursued. This is only helping the rapists. Our laws need to change, more of these criminals should be put behind bars. This rape culture cannot change unless our laws do.
Reta Manasa 3A The fact that he has been sentenced only 6 months shocks me! Shouldn't he be sentenced more? I agree with what you said. I think that these rapist should be charged more years in jail, not because it's illegal to rape, but to understand the outcome of it. Nice comment by the way!
Iman, I agree with you because "legally" just doesn't cut it. He DID assault her. I believe as a judge you should be educated and un-bias when it comes to your cases. "Helping" a rapist, or any other criminal for that matter, is not what we should be seeing on a daily basis.
George Boktor 4A in fact nothing shocked me because I heard about that before but I think that`s the good way to make someone guilty to have a good evidence because that`s is a good way to be a good judge to some one what ever you did but I want to talk about give advices to the girls and boys to know what they can do in this situations and how can they defense themselves and talk to the boys too
marcus tibbs 4a I could not believe that brock turner is only going to be in jail for a maximum of 3 months and for rape though. Stanford university honestly should've been all over it especially since he was caught behind a dumpster. its horrible people would have the courage to penetrate a unconscious person. its also blows my mind that in some states "rape" is only if a male penetrates a female in the vagina. if a woman is penetrated in the anus then the person can only get charged with sexual assault. in some states lgbt people cant even be "raped" because of what the law says about heterosexuality.
I agree with this because turner should've got more time for the crime he committed. he didn't only rape her he did it while she was unconscious that's one hundred times worse. it is really messed up how they didn't see it as a big deal because he didn't penetrate her with his penis but with his finger.
mina hakim 4A Two things that shocked me about the article was when they only gave the boy 6 months in jail because it wasn't considered as rape. It's also shocking about California's definition of rape is very.This is only helping the rapists. Our laws need to change, more of these criminals should be put behind bars. This rape culture cannot change unless our laws do.
one of the two things that shocked me reading this article is the amount of rapes that have been reported. this shocked me because they take so long to deal with the problem. something else that shocked me I how many rapes have been reported and they don't really see it as a big deal. most of them have been reported to the police and yet they don't really care for solving the problem. also it shocked me how they didn't consider one of the guys a rapist after raping someone.
Maria Creagh-Montiel The first thing that surprised me was that in North Carolina it is not considered rape if it was anal. That is so dumb. To me any sexual activity that was done without consent is rape. It shouldn't matter where it was if its not with consent it is rape. The second thing I found shocking was how short the rapist's sentences were. Brock Turner was only sentenced 6 months in A JAIL NOT EVEN PRISION. That is ridiculous! The victim has to deal with the fact that she was raped. She has to live her life knowing that she was raped and her attacker wasn't even sentenced a year. I'd be scarred for the rest of my life. She was raped but will not have any justice. I just thought that was horrendous.
I agree with you because as a victim you have to be forced to replay this act in your head over and over as you go through court and even long term. This does not go away, it's something that you will remember even though you want to forget. He was very wrong for doing what he did and even if he did penetrate her with his finger, it's still unfair because SHE DIDN'T WANT IT, IT WAS NOT HER CHOICE. He should have been sentenced with a RAPE charge and should have been sent to PRISON for what he has done. 3 months isn't even enough compared to the lifetime the victim has to replay what happened, it makes me sick and sympathetic towards the victims.
One thing that surprised me was that after the drugs she was forced to take and the rape she received, they're still forcing Kesha to work with this man. I believe that one a woman should have the right to back out of this situation if it gets this bad, if she is forced to do these things and still make music that is injustice. Its sad that all she wants to do is make music but she has to work with her rapist. Then that passion just slowly died because she probably won't even feel comfortable writing music after these 6 albums. She has to be scared everyday until these albums are made that she can't get out of the situation and he can do what he wants. For that this very unfair and he should be charged for these crimes because no matter how high she is in the music industry, she's a human being and has the same rights.
Another thing that surprised me was that Brock Turner isn't going to be charged with rape charges but with sexual assault charges. Just because she was penetrated with a finger and not a penis does not mean it's no rape. The victim did not want it and she rejected so that is forcing her to commit or do sexual acts which is rape. That's like saying you're not playing a sport you're playing basketball. Its the same thing because the definition of sports includes basketball just like the penetration of anything into a victim that doesn't want it is rape. He should have been charged with rape and had a longer sentence because this is also unfair because he gets to be free while his victim is still suffering from remembering the details of this crime.
I agree with what happened to Kesha that she is still scared and her case wasn't dealt with the right way. Tuner was a shock to many people, makes you guess does race matter that much against rapes? Rap charges need to get heavy and not light upon the one being charged.
the thing that shocked me the most was the 63% of sexual assaults are never reported to the police. something like that should be reported. people are getting raped almost everyday. people are getting heard by it. so why did they not reported it to the police. the send thing that shocked me was when they gave the boy only six months in jail because it wasn't considered as rape. he reped her with his fingers not his.... he deserved to get like 4 or 5 years of jail. it still considered as raped.
I agree with what you said about how the guy got only six months from raping a girl. It doesn't matter if it was with his finger. It is still considered rape. While others are getting up to years in jail from rape, I think it is unfair how he gets only 3-6 months and could even get out early.
Stephanie Sauceda 4A Two things that shocked me while reading this article is one being that the rate of sexual assault was as high as 1 in 2. That's scary to read meaning that every one of two girls in college is raped . College should be a safe environment due to the fact that it's not free . Even if it was free it still should be safe for students to feel comfortable in the place that they are staying at . Another thing that shocked me was reading where it said that " Brock Turner is not technically a rapist because he didn't penetrate his victim with his penis." the definition the state of California has for rape is very foolish. Rape is Rape no matter what you use or what part of the body is included . If the person does not want to do what you want them to do and they are forced to do it , it is rape .
The thing that shocked me the most from this article was that 10.5 girls experience have forced intercourse by the time they finish high school. It doesn't make sense to me how men can just do it no problem. They don't understand how it feels for our bodies to be misused when it is symbolized as a temple. It shocks me how unreasonable and childish little boys can be I don't get it .
Another thing that shocked me was how a person can get fingered and its symbolized as rape. The article was right rape doesn't have a definition. A foreign object is a finger? I feel as if rape should have something to do with a penis going into a girl . But then again rape to me is any type of forced sexual contact from one person to another. He only got six months for that when he deserved at least 2 or 3 years. The government needs to see and pay attention more to college campuses and school grounds.
I agree with you 100% because girls aren't giving respect to their bodies or themselves when they just let forceful intercourse happen. They don't speak up to say no to the situation happening. Also rape can be classified as lots of different types of intercourse, but anyone should be able to know when it's important enough to report it.
One thing that shocked me is Brock Turner isn't a rapist, legally. He was sentenced to 6 months but it was reduced to 3. He inserted his finger in her area and she didn't want it, that is forced sex and that is rape to me. It's insane that people like him get 6 months, killers get decades in prison, and to be honest, he deserves to be in prison for a longer time.
Another one that shocked me is how ridiculous the prosecutors are. They often do not want to represent the victim. The rapists are getting away and they don't help the victims, that's a shame. People like that should be locked up and they don't need to be in the campus/college. This whole state needs to change their laws period, this is unacceptable.
Brock turner (if not raped)sexually assaulted someone who was unconscious. Either way, what he did was illegal. The judge didn't do their job correctly.
One of the things that surprised me was that in North Carolina they think that rape isn't consider rape even if it's anal. I honestly think that any type of sexual activity without permission from the other person is considered rape. Standford University should've been all in the situation since they caught the person outside behind a dumpster. I think that it's rape if the victim is saying stop to anyone who is forcing them in any sexual way because it's wrong. I also think it's wrong that only 63% of rapes are reported to police because all 100% should be.
I agree with what you said. I think that we all need to come together and fight to stop rape. Victims don't need to go to sleep every night or go by their daily life knowing they got raped. I feel like rape isn't being taken seriously at universities.These people should learn that rape isn't an action that should be kept hidden. They should have male rape victims speak out. But since rape isn't being taken as serious as it should be, people aren't speaking out.
One of the things that really shocked me in this article was that when survivors do come forward, many prosecutors do not take their cases. Rape victims are people that should be supported heavily. Not supporting them just makes rape even more popular, and gives the people that rape more confidence to go ahead and rape even more. Another fact that shocked me in this article was that if a college finds a student guilty of sexual assault, they still don't usually expel them. Again, this just gives rapers more and more confidence. Something as horrible as rape should have a very harsh punishment. If rapers rape and just go on with their day, they will want to rape more because they know nothing will happen to them.
Reta Manasa 3A Two things that shocked me from this article is the fact that 63% never reported and that the ratio is one to two. Reading that is just shocking! Student's shouldn't go to college to get raped. Where are the college securities, shouldn't they do something about this? If there's no support than there's no jail, which makes rape in colleges something normal. Another thing that shocked me is how court treats these situations. The boy was only sentenced six months in jail. This nonsense should be stopped sooner rather than later. These girls need support and that won't happen if they don't speak up and let there voices be hear!
I strongly agree with you Reta because you had specific details. The fact that the boy was only sentenced six months in jail shocks me too. I think people should help these girls. Nice comment.
After reading this article, I found alot of key points and issues that the author discussed. I found it shocking how high the numbers of rape in colleges and universities were. It made me think back to looking up different colleges and their numbers of sexual assault crimes were. It made me a little unconfortable because the author also mentioned how alot of colleges hide reported sexual assualt crimes so that their number wouldn't be high.
Nathan Kmeper 1B 63 percent of sexual assaults are never reported to the police. this shocked me because if people realize this then there may be more rapes because the girls aren't reporting them. "Its hard to get a guilty verdict in sexual assault trials." Its crazy because when someone does get the courage to come forward about what happened sometimes they are not even believed.
Two things that shocked me from the article was that the students getting raped don't pursue immediate action until after a month or so. I think that as soon as the incident happens you have to let someone know as soon as possible. Because they will guide you during this critical period of time. The other thing that shocked me was that given that more than 4 out of 5 knew their attackers. That means that maybe making a lot of friends around the campus might not be a great thing. Keep your friends to a minimum, like not everyone you meet has to be your friends.
David Rizkalla 1b I see it as peer pressure. Also most victims didn't report which is a critical point. The victims don't consult anybody they just put actions into their own hands.
One thing that shock me is how the rate of sexual assault in some colleges in 1 in 2. I never thought that rape could be that high in colleges. Another thing that shocked me is that rapist are getting very short prison sentences. I think that rapist should be getting at least 4 years in prison. I wonder why they are getting short prison sentences.
What really shocked me reading this article is a former student Brock Turner wasn't counted as a rapist under California law because he only used his finger. I was born in California and I had no idea how broad the law was when it came to sexual assault. Another fact that shocked me was that 63 percent of crimes of rape are never reported. Women are state that unreported rape crimes are because they fear of not being believed.
One of the things that shocked me was how most girls didn't even report the assault. Maybe because of peer pressure. Also how the assaulters didn't get major prison sentences. Even though they committed horrible crimes.
I agree that most girls didn't report because of peer pressure. They should report it but most are scared to get rejected and bullied and are ashamed. Colleges don't like to have sexual assault cases on their name, they try to minimize the problem so they wont get convicted. -Jennifer Lopez(4B)
What I found intriguing is that rape is differently defined across legal systems. Some systems limit rape to be only between a man and a woman. Others may define it even more narrowly to exclude many various situations. Another thing that was that prosecutors may not take a rape case if it is unlikely to win over a jury. This shocked me because it implies that many prosecutors only care about winning and looking good instead of actually caring about the victim's case.
I completely agree with you about rape being defined differently across the legal system. As well as how it can exclude many situations. Its pretty messed up to think about ~Dalton C.
First off probably the most shocking fact of this entire article was right at the start. The thought and fact of every 1 in 5 women getting sexually assaulted at college is crazy. Its a terrible thought and even then, at some colleges its 1 in 2 women. Another shocking fact is that in many places the attackers get off easy because its hard to define rape properly. Its upsetting to think someone could sexually assault someone and completely scar them, then get off by technicalities.
I agree with what you are shocked with. I was also very shocked about what you mentioned. Rape is a case that shouldn't be ignored. Everyone should pay attention to what's going on in campus.
I also agree with you. The idea that your classmates are at risk is scary. This is not just a person to person problem. But one we should work on and stand up to as a community.
The first thing that shocked me is the rate of rape going around. It was said to be every 1 out of 5 women that get raped. The second most shocking thing I read was that only 63% of rape was actually reported. Also it was said that of those reports only a few Assailant actually get jail time for like half a year. Rape is going around at an exponential rate and only some people actually get prosecuted.
I agree with how shocking it is that the rate of rape going around is so high. It's terrible how oppressive the statistic is. I also think that jail time should be given more often to rapists.
I agree, the rate at which women are raped is shockingly high. It's sad how the rapist doesn't get a longer sentence for raping; the consequences don't match the crime. She sentences should be longer.
Adrian Gomez One of the things that shocked me about the article is that even after colleges find students responsible for sexual assault, they usually don't expel them. I thought once they found the assaulter, they would have them expelled. Another thing that shocked me about this article was that when survivors do come forward, prosecutor often don't take on their cases.
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The first thing that shock me is that 1 out of 5 girls may experience sexual assault at college. Out of that 1 , 21 percent are undergraduates. The second thing that shocked me was that ex-Stanford student Turner, wasn't accused of rape because technically he didn't put his penis in her. I believe that he should of been accused of rape because she said no and no means no and she was also forced which that is raped. California should stop narrowing the definition of rape.
I agree with you 100%. California needs to stop narrowing the definition of rape. No does mean no. I get why the colleges don't believe the girls, because they believe that they should have enough control over what they drink and how much they drink. The ex-Stanford student Turner, knew what he was going to do, he had to thought it out, including the consequences, and had it planned all the way out.
"Given that 4 out of 5 rape victims knew their assailant experts believe, social pressures play a large role in why rape goes unreported." "Women in college have also identified fear of not being believed, not being sure whether what they experienced was a sexual assault and not wanting family or other people to know about the incidents as reasons for not reporting." Those are the two things that shocked me. I can see why they don't report it, because nobody may want to hang around them or they may get called explicit things. They may start to get picked on more. They may get put on social media. Social pressures make it harder because they may have been raped, but they didn't report it because they didn't want to stand out. They may have got told that their family members were going to get injured. She may have too much stress on her life if she goes and tells, which leads to possibly suicide. They are also the weaker vessel, and they may have had something in their drink, or may have been on drugs when the incident happened. Somebody could also persuade them to think that it was their fault instead of the rapist so that's another scenario, that could have happened. Regardless touching somebody's body without their consent, or if they say stop, no, and their being serious it is considered rape, so it is sad.
Lynnsey Barnett One of the two things that shocked me is how the victims are treated. How afraid people are to come forward about their situation and story. The thought that its a shameful and taboo thing to admit to being raped or sexually assaulted blows my mind. Another thing is how easily the people who do these things get off. Its just a slap on the wrist for something that could ruin a persons life. Criminals should be punished. Not just a slap on the wrist. Something serious so they never do anything like that again. Maybe that would stop all these crimes.
Angelina cruz 4b I agree with you on the victims not coming forward about being rape. Like why would they want to live with something like that instead of getting help and putting the criminal away. They should be punished harshly because this is not a thing people do,its disgusting and insane of actually seeing people doing this. If I was a judge I would have sent them away for life or done worse.
One of the most shocking things that I saw in this article was that around 1 in 5 women may experience sexual assault at college. They don't get to speak out because they feel like they did wrong in getting in that type of situation. People define rape in many ways that they think is right. Their really isn't a big definition of rape they take it as it wasn't rape due to no actual contact .Like in Turners case he used his fingers and a foreign object to rape his victim. This caused a big chaos in whether he did wrong or not. The most shocking thing is that they don't punish them hard enough they are very lenient towards different races. While others suffer more time due to racial problems.
Edilberto Orozco 4b One thing that shocked me as I was reading the article was that most survivors do come forward, but yet the prosecutors don't often take on their case. This happens because most prosecutors are willing to take the risk but most often prosecutors will take the case if he or she knows that he or she will win the case. I think that is not right. All prosecutors should take the case even if its a win or lose because the victims need all the help they can get. Another thing that shocked me was that rape is the most underreported crime. This is shocking because rape is a big thing going on and most people ignore and thinks its not important until they become the victim.
It's is shocking that prosecutors won't take cases because of them thinking the jury won't side with the victim but they don't have a right to chose before the jury has spoken. That is true rape is very common but the least reported, it's a very big deal because rape can happen to anyone and it is important to come forward about it. Some people have even committed suicide because of how emotionally hurt they became after the incident.
Two shocking things from this new article is how vague the laws for rape are. They should take into consideration of how mentally and psychically hurt someone can become after a sexual assault no matter how little the assault was it can still leave a huge impact. Another shocking fact is that prosecutors won't take action upon their statement. There was one cause that wouldn't be taken because they didn't the jury wouldn't side with the victim.
I agree with Jose Perez because he said that people get mentally and psychically hurt from rape. This is true because a girl or even a boy can commit suicide from being talked about. Boys and girls both can get rape so think about peoples emotions.
Jose has a good point so I agree with him because he said that people get really hurt from rape and it should be handled because girls or boys can commit suicide.
one of the most shocking things that I read in that article is that there could be a lot of different definitions to rape which i think its not fair because rape is rape and there shouldn't be a way out to it. I don't think its fair for people to be giving rape different punishment, I think they should of be given a fair punishment for what they have done because I don't thinks its fair for girls to get raped and the guys get no type of punishment.
I agree with Tania. There should not be different 'definitions' to rape. If a female says no and the guy still keeps going that is rape. There should not be anything stopping him from paying what has done to the female. It is not fair to the female because getting raped is something serious and its not like you can get over it the next day. Yadira Vazquez/1B
The facts in the article shocked me. The main ones that shocked me were that 1 in 5 women get raped or sexually assaulted. It shocked me because I didn't know that many many had a situation like this at that large of a number. Another one that shocked me is colleges try to cover it up. If I was a college I would let it be known so we can come to together to stop the problem not keep it a secret. These facts are a surprise to me and things should be changed.
I agree with you because rape is a huge problem that we are facing. I also agree because we need to try to stop this problem that we have, by starting in schools.
What shocks me is there's really not a major penalty for rapist. Especially if they say they were both drunk. rapist don't even get more than 6 months if they don't have a lot of proof behind the case or they don't even get punished. I think they should take more action in getting people like this off the street. But people are so corrupt now a days no where is safe.
2 facts from the article that shocked me were how California law doesn't see Turner as rapist, because "he didn't penetrate his victims with his penis." He was only charged with a sexual assault, but in my eyes he's qualified as one since the victim didn't want it. The other fact was how long the rapist was sentenced to serve. Turner was suppose to face a decade, but instead 6 months & good behavior could him 3 months or less. How is that even possible, because he should be convicted with right charge and serve the a longer time. His rape victim has to live with fact of being raped all their lives.
You are right, the state of California is wrong for not classifying Turner as a rapist. But you also have to remember that every state is different and all states are selfish and lazy to address major problems they face. And the reason why they aren't given long time in prison is because they are the people of tomorrow who will "improve" this country. I'm not defending anybody, I'm just looking at how they actually see things.
This article had a lot of shocking facts, but two that stood out to me were that people got charged different jail sentences for the same crime. Another one is that most of the rapes happen in colleges, and people aren't doing a lot things to protect people in the area. I know some people are trying to stop it, but they are still happening.
Those facts also shocked me especially the one with the jail time for the same crime. They should both be treated equally so they should give them the same time whether it be longer or shorter for either two. People are also protesting about it, but I don't think they have much of an effect.
Irvin the two facts that shocked u, also shocked me. I am totally shocked about people who got charged differently for the same crime they committed , crime is crime and it should be paid off equally .Last the largest number that rapes occur in are in colleges. Collage is full of different people. Not everyone will have good things in them. shocking!
One out of all the facts that shocked me is that they gave the guy six months in jail.It was not considered rape, In my opinion any type of sexual activity that was not wanted by the other is rape , no is no. I was also shocked that 1 through 5 women may experience sexual assault in college. College is a learning environment and it is one of the places that most rape is going on and that is not right.63% of sexual assaults are never reported ,people choose not to report it, and that is just sad, that shouldn't be happening.
Yadira Vazquez/1B Rapes at college is something very important but people do not treat it with much importance. This is huge issue. There are two things that shocked me. First of all, I did not know 1 out of 5 females get raped. It is shocking to know that many people are experiencing this. Another thing, I found shocking is that 63 percent of sexual assaults are not reported to the police. That is more than half of the rapes. It is sad to know females are going through this and they have no one to talk to of the fear of not being believed. Everyone that has raped a female should pay for what they do because it is not something you can forget about the second day.
One thing that was shocking was how they sentenced Brock Turner. He served half of his original jail time due to a because government law that gives inmates credit for time served. He should've went to a state prison instead of a jail. His sentence was too lenient because he raped a helpless unconscious woman behind a dumpster, and only got 3 months in a jail. Also, another shocking fact was how colleges/universities don't expel the students who commit these sexual crimes. Schools should deal with these students in a better way. They should get these students expelled. They keep these students in the school and expect for it not to reoccur. It puts a bad reputation on the school, and leaves nobody safe.
One shocking fact I read was how a lot of universities do not punish their students most of the time for the crimes they do. The least that should happen is that these students get expelled. Another shocking fact was how Brock Turner got off the hook easily. He raped a woman, got sentenced for 6 months in a jail, then served 3 months. For what he was accused of, he should've served life.
mervana labib 3A I strongly agree, because whatever you are responsible for you should get punished for. Also I like the fact that you mentioned that the least that should happen is that these students get expelled. Brock Turner shouldn't have got off the hook that that easily. His punishment should've been more than just that.
The first fact that shocked me was how many women get sexually assaulted while at college, 1 in 5. I think that this is a huge problem that probably doesn't get as much attention as it should . Maybe if we made more people aware then it wouldn't happen as much. Another fact that disturbed is how some places define rape. I think rape should be when any sexually act is commited with physical force no no consent form the other person, if they don't like it.
Engy sayed A1 The first fact that shocked me was that the campus, and the security do not do anything about it. they do not even believe the girls and they always believe the boy like the girls are nothing . The second fact that shocked me was they did not do anything to the boy like kick them out of school or arrest them they just left them with out anything and that's a really bad I idea because now the boys will continue doing what they had done because no one stopped them or show them the girls have someone to stand up for them.
Mariam Abdelsayed A1 I agree with your point that the college campuses may appear to take the rapist side more than the victims, and for sure campuses and courts should do more and be more responsible and look at the victim's side more . This need to stop and start standing for the victims more .
savonna arhin 3A The fact the schools these victims attend and law officials don't do much about these cases isn't only shocking, its also horrifying. No one should have to deal with something like that on their own. They deserve justice, just like a family would whose loved one was murdered, or like a victim of a theft would. they're all just as important. Secondly the sentencing these rapist get are a joke. What is 3 months in jail or 6 months in jail going to do? These criminals shouldn't be allowed to walk the streets. It does the victim no justice nor does it do the community any service as well.
One of the most shocking things that I read in that article is that there could be a lot of different definitions to rape which I think its not fair because rape is rape and there shouldn't be a way out to it. The second fact that shocked me was they did not do anything to the boy like kick them out of school or arrest them they just left them with out anything and that's a really bad I idea because now the boys will continue doing what they had done because no one stopped them or show them the girls have someone to stand up for them.
Two things that shocked me about this article was how colleges don't report any rapes due tot he fact that they don't want the reputation of their school to become a bad one, they don't care for these situations because they feel like half of the rapes aren't even rapes and some even say that if they didn't actually rape them then it isn't rape. That is totally not fair because no one deserves to even get close to getting raped. Another thing that shocked me was how when guys rape on campus the school half of the time doesn't even tell them to leave the school, their solution is just for the guy not to get close to the victim and expect the victim to be okay with that knowing their rapist is still on the loose and could attempt to do it again. In all I'm just really shocked by the way rape in this generation is handled, they obviously don't see that rape is a serious matter and it affects the victim making them commit suicide. Most of the suicides there has been were for rape or bullying. its just sad how they cant put a stop it.
I agree with you. They need to be punished even if its the slightest type of rape. They should listen no means no. they shouldn't have the power to traumatize women and make them feel worthless just so they can get off. its not right.
The first fact that shocked me was why a school takes so long to report a rape or decides not to report it. If a girl or anyone gets raped it's illegal and should be reported. Some people get away with crimes when they shouldn't and people suffer by it. The second fact that surprised me was that the people that rape them don't feel anything for their victims. They don't feel what their victim feels and they don't feel the guilt of their behavior.
Nurissa Rashid 4A What surprised me the most was the fact that California and many other states don't consider it rape if they've used "foreign objects". It really blows my mind that Brock Turner is doing 3 months in jail even though he was caught by TWO people and the girl was unconscious. In my opinion rape is rape no matter what objects you use and especially if the victim is saying no or is unconscious. Another thing shocked me was that in most cases the student who commits the assault isn't expelled from the school. They get suspended in most cases and even if they do get expelled, it doesn't go on their transcript. It's just really sad that these victims barely get any justice and they have to live with knowing that they've been raped.
Mariam Abdelsayed A1 The first thing that blowed my mind was under the California law Turner is not technically a rapist and he will not spend more than three months in jail even though he sexually assaulted a woman on Stanford university . The second thing that shocked me is that many victims don't pursue a legal action against the rapist it's been estimated that more than 63 percent of the rape cases have never been reported to the police , this is a really huge number!
Engy sayed A1 I agree with your Point that it's a big percent of the rapes that didn't been reported and it's something bad that the girls did not report something like that or that even the campus cared about the girls and their problems.
Aram Jimenez 5B What shocked me was how our country defines rape. This country is so out of control in that every state has different laws and how everything is defined. It's basically saying that if I do something illegal here in Tennessee, it would turn to a small offence in a different state. The other thing that shocked me was that 63% of sexual assaults are not reported. I don't see why they don't report it. Are they afraid of being told a liar or the rapist coming back? Seriously, they can call anonymously so the person can get convicted.
THE first thing that shock me about this article it was about that California and other states don't consider rape as a rape they consider it as "foreign objects" rape is rape no matter what's Thas what I think if somebody force you to do something that you don't want that's rape aslo if a girl say no it's not.The second thing that shocked me it was that 63% of rapes are not reported like why I know they scared but still all those who raped girls needs to go to jail.
I agree with her when she says rape is rape no matter what.I think that if america wants to resolve rape they should all be on board with one definition of what or how rape is considered.With several states convicting rape differently it allows many people to get away with rape.
I agree with her when she says rape is rape no matter what.I think that if america wants to resolve rape they should all be on board with one definition of what or how rape is considered.With several states convicting rape differently it allows many people to get away with rape.
The first thing that shocked me is that 1 out 5 women get raped. I thought it would be a bigger number. Rape is a big issue and the statistics support this. Another thing that shocked me was that California defines rape as only using the penis and doesn't consider foreign objects. It is rape if the person doesn't consent to it, no matter wht it is.
I agree with your definition of rape if the person does not consent it is rape. Rape is a big problem and to me 1 in 5 women in a college get sexually assaulted is a lot. That is saying if 5,000 girls go to a college 1,000 of them will get raped that is a lot and a huge problem which needs to be dealt with.
Rape is such a cruel thing to experience with many people unfairly charged. The crucial part is that in a college 1 in 5 women will experience sexual assault that number is a problem. There should be more justice in cases to stop it from happening with bigger consequences. Another problem is what is considered to be rape like in Brock Tuner case who was charged with a count of three felony charges. If he was charged in California he would not be a rapist technically because he did not penetrate with his thing but with a foreign object. That is unfair and to think of many rapist in California getting away with a lesser punishment for doing same thing a Brock Turner.
Juan Sanchez 1B I agree that rape is indeed a cruel thing and also that there should be a bigger consequence for doing so.People that think about raping think of so because there isn't a big consequence on people who are rapist.Another thing everybody should be punished for doing anything at force even if he did it with an object instead on his thing.
"63% of the victims from rape don't ever talk about it", it really shocked me because that's a high number and they are only counting the ones from colleges. I am really not that much surprised because people are always afraid of what the society will think of them if they say they have been raped. Society is really corrupted, of course there will be people who will say bad things about you even if you don't say anything, but that doesn't mean that you should keep quiet.
"Less than 5% of completed or attempted rapes were reported to police officers". It just keeps coming up over and over again, the number of brave women who dare to look for justice. don't be afraid of what people think about you if they knew you were sexually assaulted, be afraid that if you don't do anything the same thing could happen to someone you dear to you. So don't be silent brake those chains of fear and look for justice with the thought that you can help to save others, and ovoid them form going through the same fait as you did.
The two most shocking facts are that Around 1 in 5 women may experience sexual assault at college.I would of had thought it would be like one in ten.but one in five is a lot even though it is college.Another fact that shocked me was that 63 percent of sexual assault is not reported to the police.That is over half of sexual assaults that aren't reported to the police.that a lot of rapist getting away with it and going to jail for it.
Going into this I didn't think much would shock me because its no secret that rape isn't taken as seriously as it should be. Thought I was surprised when I read that the definition of rape isn't the same in all places. The word rape brings a pretty universal understanding that someone was assaulted in a sexual act without consent. Its hard to understand that someone can sit at a podium a act so lenient towards a person who created a physical and emotional trauma to another. Another thing I didn't know about was how a student who commits a crime of the type, they "usually aren't expelled." A student could have been accused of cheating and in a blink of an eye, hes out. But this student who will effect this other person for life gets away with out even a smack on the wrist.
I strongly agree with how rape is a universal definition ,and that many different states have diverse opinions on what rape means. If the victim says no they mean no. You have no consent after the word no leaves their mouth. I also agree with how surprising it is that a judge is so okay with a individual that has caused so much emotional hurt.
I think that you are completely right in the aspect of believing that rape has a universal meaning. Lenience towards these people isn't something that should be tolerated. Understanding that these victims are severely hurt, more acts should be taken to provide them with the justice they deserve.
I agree with everything you wrote it is crazy how a student who raped somebody "usually aren't expelled" but when someone cheats they are. Colleges don't take rape as serious as it really is in my opinion.
One shocking fact that I noticed is that Turner got charged with three felony accounts of sexual assault, but yet he is not a rapist. He is technically not a rapist because he used a finger instead of penetrating the female with his penis. I feel that he should be a convicted as a rapist it does not matter what or how you penetrated a woman, if she says no she means no. No means no! Something else that surprised me in this article is that North Carolina does not consider anal a part of their rape laws. Neither did New York until 2013. Honestly, I disagree strongly with these facts especially because the women have a choice on if they want "it" or do not. Referring back to the previous fact ,if she says no she means no.
Nicolas Gibson 1b 9/7/16 The first fact that surprised me and made me physically ill was that in some colleges 50% of women have reported being sexually assaulted. This concerns me personally because my sister is currently in college and I believe I need to buy her a tazer now. the second fact that surprised me was that some victims don't take legal action. this concerns me because this can leave a rapist on the street ready to go again.
Capri Finch 1B What really surprised me in this article was how few of the students who commit a sexual assault gets expelled. It honestly baffles me that people with power (like a judge)can just allow someone to get away with doing such a life changing crime, that really affects some ones life for the worse. It really makes me stop and ponder if the judges even have remorse for not considering the victims feelings at all when they allow the sex offenders go free, without suffering any type of consequence for their wrong doings. The other thing that shocked me was that public offenders don't take on victims cases. I feel like its kind of idiotic and trifling to not try and help the victims because if the roles were flipped they'd expect help.
Marissa Pearson 4b one thing that shocked me was that at some campus's 50% girls are sexually assaulted I knew that sexual assault is high but I didn't know that it would be half the girls that go to the school. Another thing that shocked me was how most of the students who commit the crime nothing serious happens to them most don't even get expelled from the school, its almost like the colleges don't care.
Two things that shook me in this article is that women who are rape are afraid to report it because they think people would think there lien or won't believe them. Also these women know who rape them is a sad thing it could be someone that trust and that person just took advantage of them. It's sad that 63 percent of people have never report to the police that they where rape, by not telling this give the rapist opportunities to do it to a other women when not reported immediately.
Karen Escobar Two things that shocked me about this article was the 63% of sexual assaults of people who never report to the police, and that the rate of sexual assaults was a high as 1 in 2 in some of the schools. 63% is a high percentage. This percentage will keep on increasing if people maintain quiet and do not report to what is going on. The other, is that 1 out of 2 sexual assaults exist in some schools. This shocked me the most because it is literally the half. This is crazy!
Rebecca Mammo 5B One of the things that surprised me the most was the California law against rape. The way the California law defied rape is like telling the victim that their story is lie. Its like telling a women that she wasn't raped because the man wasn't on top of her or because that he only used his hands. It doesn't matter how they defined rape if a women says "no" then its no or else it's rape. Because it still leaves a mental and emotional scare. The other thing that surprised me the most was how society stops sexual victims from telling their stories because of the way they treat victims. The sexual victims not being protected by the law because the law is only giving three or four months for a man, when the women is spending her entire life trying to forget what happened to her.
Danielle Stevenson 1A The California law Turner is not technically a rapist and he will not spend more than three months in jail even though he sexually assaulted a woman on Stanford university . The second thing that shocked me is that many victims don't pursue a legal action against the rapist it's been estimated that more than 63 percent of the rape cases .They deserve justice, just like a family would whose loved one was murdered, or like a victim of a theft would. they're all just as important sexual activity without permission from the other person is considered rape. Stanford University should've been all in the situation since they caught the person outside behind a dumpster. I think that it's rape if the victim is saying stop to anyone who is forcing them in any sexual way because it's wrong. . this was just not a good outcome in my opinion . I hope its not anymore cases like this .
Magdalene 3A It shocked me about this article was how colleges don't report any rapes due tot he fact that they don't want the reputation of their school to become a bad one, they don't care for these situations because they feel like half of the rapes aren't even rapes and some even say that if they didn't actually rape them then it isn't rape. That is totally not fair because no one deserves to even get close to getting raped. Another thing that shocked me was how when guys rape on campus the school half of the time doesn't even tell them to leave the school, their solution is just for the guy not to get close to the victim and expect the victim to be okay with that knowing their rapist is still on the loose and could attempt to do it again. In all I'm just really shocked by the way rape in this generation is handled, they obviously don't see that rape is a serious matter and it affects the victim making them commit suicide. Most of the suicides there has been were for rape or bullying. its just sad how they cant put a stop it.
Mervana labib 3A First thing that really shocked me was that many victims don't immediately and may never pursue legal action against their attackers. It shocks me why a victim would give up their right and not try to fight and get back what they deserve. It stated how rape is the most underreported crime. Which is a shame because the more they let it go and never immediately report it, the more it will cause rape to happen. Also another fact that got me shocked was how even after colleges find students responsible for sexual assault, they usually don't expel them. Every student that was responsible for sexual assault should be punished. They should also include it in their transcript. So other colleges could be aware.
I agree that every student involved in the sexual assault should be punished. It isn't fair to still give them the opportunity to continue college because the should have thought of the consequences before being ignorant.
mariv gergis 3A it's true most school don't anything. these people should be in jail and kicked out of school. and I believe that he deserves more punishment than what he is getting rape regardiess .
Amany makram 3A One of the things that shocked me the most was when survivors do come forward prosecutor often don't take on their cases. For example, a prosecutor told a college student that he wasn't going to take the case and told her that a jury would not take her side. It's shocking how rape can be seen as a normal thing. Another thing that shocked me was around one in 5 women may experience sexual assault at collage. The rate was 1:2, this number itself is just shocking. 1 in every 2 women get raped. 21 percent of undergraduates were raped in U.S college Universities.
Nothing shocked me because I heard about it before. In my opinion anything that the boy or the girl doesn't want to do anything sexual assault is still rape.That is very shocking sexual should not occur at all. College should be a safe place for everyone.
Nothing shocked me because I heard about it before. In my opinion anything that the boy or the girl doesn't want to do anything sexual assault is still rape.That is very shocking sexual should not occur at all. College should be a safe place for everyone.
All this does not surprise me that now all that sexual assault happens: now is a common theme, but really this happens not to have a safe place and in my opinion and schools should be safe places.
I was very surprised when I heard 63% of sexual assaults are reported to police. People that get raped want the person that did it in jail. I totally agree. When people get raped they can have flashbacks all their live and have fear or be uncomfortable in certain situations. More people need to speak up when things like this happen to them. Another thing that surprised me is that students that are found guilty of rape still get the privilege of college and things like that, they don't deserve It .
I agree with you. When people can not go back for getting raped. Or if they do then its going take a while to get over. There are a lot of people who need to help and take up for others or themselves. Because if nobody does anything then this will continue to be a problem.All this does not surprise me that now all that sexual assault happens.the two facts that shocked me the most is 21 percent of female students have reported that they have been sexually assaulted since the beginning of school.Another thing that surprised me is that students that are found guilty of rape still get the privilege of college and things like that, they don't deserve It .
Miere Maefield 4A the two facts that shocked me the most is 21 percent of female students have reported that they have been sexually assaulted since the beginning of school. I honestly think that universities should try everything in their power to prevent this from happening they should have support groups and security that is always on stand by at all of the college partys and other events. Another fact that was shocking to me was the California law against rape ,my honest opinion is that any type of unwanted sexual attention rather its penetrated unwanted sex its considered as rape of the mind body and soul. any unwanted sexual attention is rape to me. In Brock Turner case he was found guilty of 3 counts of sexual assault, in the article is stated that under the California law he isn't technically a rapist ? what's the difference he still forcefully harmed a woman sexually! rather he penetrated or not if the sexual contact is unwanted and forced it is rape!!!
21 percent of female undergraduates they have been sexually assaulted this shocked me because that is a lot of violence. It also shocked me because that is a lot of people been assaulted. Rape is the most underreported crime that shock me because people do not take responsibility for their own actions. It also shock me because lots of these problems are not solved.
What shocked me was that only 63% of sexual assaults are reported. Thats bad because so many people get raped and some people don't report it because they're either scared or they are scared that people won't believe them. I think sexual assaults should be taken more seriously and something should actually be done so that all of this can be stopped. Someone thats been raped is going to live with that for the rest if their lives and will always be scared and traumitized. Something needs to be done so that the people raping others get the punishment they deserve.
I think that campus rape are very serious because there on there on an it can go on as long as people don't come around an see an that people are really wanting to kill there self over this type of problem that is really hard on the people that's its happening to
I think that they need to pay more attention to campus rape. What really shocked me was that 63% of sexual asaults were reported to the police. Which means that there's a lot of girls out there being raped. Campus rape should no longer be ignored. They need to act and do something about it. Girls are out there having really bad flashbacks that will have all there life's. They are losing people because they can't take it any longer and decide to commit suicide.
jackie jacobo 4b Two facts from this article that shocked me were the way women get unfairly treated when they report a rape and the injustice being done when the assailant is convicted for their crime.Women are told to report rape but the truth of it is that the only reason for them not doing so is because when they do they're either not belived or ignored.When the assailant is convicted for their crime they are usually not convicted fairly.They usually get sentenced to a small amount of time so it makes others feel as if they can do it aswell becuase the penalty wont be that much either way.
I agree with Jackie because I think that women should be taken seriously when they report a crime. Women shouldn't be scared to tell people about what happened to them. They should tell a friend or the police when something like that happens.
I agree with what you said. Victims are scared that if they do report a rape, they won't believe the victim. Also lots of women don't want to report a rape because they're scared of what their parents or what others would think of them.
The two facts that shocked me is that 1 out of 5 women may experience sexual assault and that the victims don't report their attackers. One out of 5 is a high percentage, that means anyone that I know can be raped. I'm surprised that they don't report it immediately and sometimes not at all. People need to start reporting it as soon as possible so they can take care of the case.
I believe that the rate of how many girls are getting rapped is crazy. I honestly don't understand why it is that high. 21 percent of female undergraduates have been sexually assaulted. Another fact that surprised me was the 1 in every 2 girls. 50 percent of girls at the school were sexually assaulted which is crazy. If I was a girl I wouldn't even want to go to college.
I believe they don't take college rape... or even rape period as a serious problem. This problem may make females not even want to further their education. 21% of college undergraduate females have been raped in some kind of way. Just because a boy doesn't pull his penis out, doesn't mean it's okay. "No" still means "no." The excuse "boys will be boys" needs to stop.
Bassam Zakhary In my opinion anything that the female or the male doesn't want to do anything sexual is still considered rape. Just because its not the way the orthodox way of doing it doesn't make it right for anyone to do such a thing. I think We need some people to open up or its just going to be always in our minds. Everyone needs to be against rape because it's not fair for some people.
One thing that surprised me from the article is that 21 percent of women had been sexually assaulted within in the beginning of their school year. That percentage may not be a big amount but that is a crazy number for it to have just been the beginning of the school year. I think that the schools should be more attentive and make sure that they are supporting the victims and warning the newcomers of the school. Another thing that surprised me was that 63 percent of sexual assaults aren't reported to the police. That is insane. I feel as though the victims should be able to tell and not be afraid of what can be said about them because it can save the next person's life or give them courage to tell their story also.
Melissa Montelier 5B
ReplyDeleteTwo things that did shock me from this whole article was how the campuses and courts don't do much for these rapes. Women shouldn't have to continue at a college that has brought them nightmares and had scarred them for life. The second reason was how these men don't get correctly punished. This problem isn't campuses but also politics and government that should be taken more seriously and better punishments to learn their lesson for real. Women should not be scared to talk and speak to an authority. We need to learn to stand up, learn how to fight, and not be scared to speak. We have the right of speech why not put use to it.
I agree with your way of thinking when it comes down to rape victims not being afraid and reporting their rape experience, but I don't really think it is coming forward what they're afraid of. I think victims choose not to come forward or speak because they are afraid of not being believed by others including the college and even the police.
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I agree with what you are saying. People wonder why rape cases aren't as many as they should be but to be honest it's because the police or people they tell won't believe them. In the article it says that Tucker Reed wouldn't take a young girl's rape case because he "thought" that no one would believe her even though she had the proof to back her case up. However he replied to her by saying that the jury would never believe her.
DeleteCampuses and courts should do something to change this. She's right about men not being punish correctly also they just get few months of prison or something. Women shouldn't be scared to speak up also, if they don't speak up they wont get what's right.
DeleteI agree with what you said. The rapists usually don't get convicted until a while after the accident because most victims are too afraid to speak up. These victims shouldn't have to live in fear in their campus. I feel like rape isn't being taken seriously at universities. These people should learn that rape isn't an action that should be kept hidden. its a serious crime, and can sometimes make a person kill themselves, and it could make the rapists be able to rape more women. They should also have male rape victims speak out. But since rape isn't being taken as serious as it should be, people aren't speaking out.
DeleteI agree with a lot of what you said. I think that we all need to come together and fight to stop rape. Victims don't need to go to sleep every night or go by their daily life knowing they got raped. A lot of colleges and courts don't really care and that's what victims fear. Even though courts and colleges don't care women should still speak up about what happened to them, there is going to be at least one person or a few people that would listen to that person.
DeleteWho says every rape victim is a woman and every rapist is a man? There was a case at university of phoenix where a male student was raped by another man, and there have been plenty of cases with a female sex offender. But you're right; convicted rapist should be punished harder. High end communities, such as colleges, have a tendency to cover up crimes to avoid the government and negative attention from the media to protect their reputation. In one of the pictures it says, "teach your son not to rape." I agree with this. Rapists obviously do what they do for a reason. The reason being their parents were not very involved throughout their children's lives. There have been some cases, however, in which there were psychiatric problems, but they should still be contained in an institution. You say that "we need to stand up?" Well, Hillary supporters, standing up wouldn't be as much of a problem with an instrument of self defense (weapon). When I say weapon I mean one of any sort, Such as a knife or a gun. I think there should be an easier and better way to report a rape, or a meeting dedicated to rape or sexually assaulted victims so that the victims can talk to other victims so they know they're not alone.
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DeleteI agree with what she said as in we have the right to freedom of speech and how the colleges and courts do not do much to punish these rapist. The consequence should be so severe that the thought of rape would never come into anyones mind. But also there can be male victims and female victims but in my opinion there all the same. Rape is rape and it simply doesn't need to continue to happen especially at a rate of 1 into every 2 students.
I totally agree with her. Men should get punished for what they have done to girls. Girls should also not be afraid to stand up for themselves. They should find someone to speak to and tell them what they've been through and something should be done to stop all these sexual assaults.
DeleteI agree with you, I don't feel victims are afraid of coming forward. They are more afraid of being ignored, pushed to the side, or made to believe it was their fault just so the school could cover it up.
DeleteOne thing that did shock me was that the colleges didn't have that much evidence of the rapes because of their sports program. You all are on the right track too. I believe that rape is always a bad idea too.
DeleteMirna Coronado 1A
ReplyDeleteOne of the main things that shocked me from this article was the fact that fewer then 1 out of 3 sexual assailants are expulsed or expelled from the college after being reported and found guilty. This immediately makes you believe or at least assume that the college isn't doing a great job at giving those responsible for rape the consequences they deserve. I later on realized it made sense once I realized that the percentage of cases that were underreported (63% which was the second thing that shocked me the most) was much greater then the number of reported cases. If only more rape cases were actually reported then maybe the number of sexual assailants expulsions would increase and maybe then encourage them to develop better ways of punishing them and more frequently.
YES! These people need to be punished harsher. They don't deserve opportunities like college. I would not feel safe in a place where I know a rapist studies. I could easily be the next victim.
DeleteI believe that he deserves more punishment than what he is getting rape is rape regardless
DeleteYes, it's true most school don't anything. These people should be in jail and kicked out of school.
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I agree with what you said, schools are not doing enough to protect victims and to punished the rapists. If schools were doing enough there would have been less rape happening in colleges. Rape would have been something all student were afraid of instead of feeling like they could get away with it.
savonna arhin 3A
DeleteThis is so true, more cases need to be reported so that the issue can be handled accordingly. The more cases that are reported the bigger and more important the issue will become. Every rapist needs to be held accountable for their actions and not given kitty sentencing's such as 3 months.
Deonna Johnson 4A
DeleteMore cases need to be reported. Everyone that has rapes should never get off with it people really get traumatized by it. Nobody deserves to have their privacy violated in this way.
One thing that shocked me the most was that North Carolina doesn't consider anal penetration in its rape law, or that if the male doesn't orgasm it's not considered rape. In my opinion anything that the female or the male doesn't want to do anything sexual is still considered rape. Just because its not the way the orthodox way of doing it doesn't make it right for anyone to do such a thing. It's also really idiotic to tell a girl that she wasn't raped knowing that she was raped but just because the man wasn't pleased it automatically means that she wanted it or that its okay for him to do. Another thing that makes me sick is that Brock Turner only was sent to jail for three months for fingering a girl that didn't want to have sex with her. Just because he didn't put in a certain organ in her doesn't mean she deserves it. He should have gotten at least 5 years for that because in no way, shape, or form will that be okay for anyone to do to any human being male or female.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everything that you're saying. If anyone doesn't consent to do anything sexual they should still get charged with rape. They should get the same amount of time as other rapists.
DeleteIman Khoshnaw 3A
DeleteI agree, the laws need to be changed. If the victim was forced, then it should be considered rape. It shouldn't matter if there was no penetration by an organ or if he didn't orgasm. The laws should also be more punishing; Brock Turner shouldn't spend only three months in jail for fingering an unconscious girl.
One thing that shocked me the most is that rape is the most underreported crime. It happens all over the world and even in a learning environment yet people choose not to report it. Another thing I read that shocked me was that the law requires a witness to prove someone guilty of rape. Rape is a crime that doesn't usually occur in public, so how are there suppose to be witnesses.
ReplyDeleteI agree that rape should be reported. However, the victims have very good reasons not to such as not being believed and having their family find out. It's a very difficult position to be in, so I understand even though it's wrong.
DeleteAbnoub Aiad 1B
DeleteI agree with all that you said and yes during the incident there are usually no witnesses around. So I don't agree with the police saying that there has to be witnesses so that the attacker could punished.
I agree with you there are people that do not report it, and that is just wrong. People should feel safe in a learning environment.
DeleteDemua Alsaleh 1A
ReplyDeleteIt was very shocking to read that at some schools, the rate of sexual assault was as high as 1 in 2. I wasn't aware that something as horrible as this happens as often as it does because it shouldn't. Also, when the accused is found guilty(which is difficult to prove), the assailant gets a very lenient sentence. That comes to me as a surprise since I don't think that a lenient sentence will prevent them from doing it again. I believe that they deserve a punishment worse than that.
John Saleb 4B
DeleteI agree with what you are saying. Rape happens very often and to a lot more people than we think. We should definitely be giving out harsher punishments and stricter laws on college campuses. If we need to decrease rape stats, there should be much more punishments so people will be scared of doing it in the first place.
Roberto Fernandez 1A
ReplyDeleteThe first fact in the article that shocked me was that only 63 percent of sexual assaults are never reported to the police. It's the most underreported crime which shouldn't be right. These victims need to speak out and not let the rapist get away with it. The second fact that shocked me was that just because the rapist use there finger to sexually assault a person they don't get charged with rape but a lesser charge. If anyone doesn't want to be touched in any sexual way than they should get the same punishment as rape.
Your right they should speak out and not let them get away with it. There's a chance that he or she could come back and do it again.
DeleteI agree with you, victims should be able to speak up and tell their stories. They shouldn't have to hide their stories when the man gets to live his life with what he had done to her and doesn't get charged enough for what he has done. Rape should be defined by the stores the women is telling not by the law the man has set up.
DeleteI Agree , Some of the victims don't speak out until someone makes them or someone else do it before them . holding in pain is worse .
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ReplyDeleteI agree with Roberto on this one. It doesn't matter if the person was unconscious, or if the offender used their finger. If they DID NOT consent, then it is rape. It's wrong and plain disturbing that someone would even think about doing that to someone. It frustrates me that someone can do that and get away with it.
Kierra Brown 3A
ReplyDeleteOne thing that surprised me when I read the article was, 63% of sexual assaults are reported to the police. Most people I know say that if they got raped or sexually assaulted then they would want that person in jail for the rest of their lives. I agree ,because I would never want anyone to go through what I would go through if I was raped. To protect ourselves, these people need to go away so they wont harm anyone. This is not okay. We need more people to open up or its just going to be buried in our minds. Memories like that never go away. Another thing that surprised me was that after colleges find the students guilty of sexual assault, they usually don't get expelled. These men should be PUNISHED!! They don't deserve opportunities like college. They are disgusting and ignorant.
I agree with you. They need to be punished even if its the slightest type of rape. They should listen no means no. they shouldn't have the power to traumatize women and make them feel worthless just so they can get off. its not right.
Deleteyea they really need to be punished
DeleteI agree with Kierra. Rapist should always be punished for their horrible actions. Rape victims should open up, and use their voice as a platform in hopes to make more people aware & also to give them reassurance that's it's okay to speak about the subject.
DeleteThe first thing that shocked me was California is one of many states that people define it as a rape state, but lawmakers are trying to change that. What also shocked me was that North Carolina and New York do not consider anal penetrations in its rape laws. Rape is the most underreported crime, according to the National Sexual Violence Resource Center. A lot of sexual assaults aren't reported to the police. The numbers of rape crimes reported are very low especially in college. A reason why women don't report this is because they are scared nobody will believe them.
ReplyDeleteTwo things that really shocked me in the article is the fact that some of these boys didn't get arrested for rape for the dumbest reasons. Like it wasn't rape cause he didn't orgasm, and the other being it wasn't rape cause it was a foreign object. I don't understand how that's not rape, she didn't consent so It was rape and they should've been arrested of it. this is the reason why many girls are afraid to speak up. its not taken as serious as It should be.
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DeleteI agree with Laura its not taken as serious as it should be. If you don't give your consent then its rape. He should of been arrested and punished.
I agree the definition of rape is too outdated. It was made in a time where women were basically considered objects. I say anything without consent is rape. That's what pretty much everyone grew up believing I don't see why it's not written that way
DeleteGeorge 4A
Deleteyou should have enough evidence to have a good judge on someone and if you have , I agree with you
I agree rape wasn't taken as serious as it should've been. I don't appreciate how boys don't see what they're doing to us young women.
DeleteSabrina Washington 3A
ReplyDeleteI was shocked that 1 through 5 women may experience sexual assault at college and some was as high as 1 in 2. That is very shocking sexual assault should not occur at all. College should be a safe place. Its not cheap to attend college so I would expect a safe environment. I was also shocked that 63% percent of sexual assaults are never reported. If anyone gets sexually assaulted it should be reported. No one deserves to be violated period. NO MEANS NO if you did not give your consent then the punishment should be a minimum of five years. Women have the right to receive justice.
That was another thing I was shocked at too. About how afraid some females are to report their rape because someone may not believe them. College should be safe place whether it's down the street from your house or 3,000 miles away.
DeleteI was also shocked that that many women are assaulted in college. That is such a high number. It's like thinking that 1 out of 5 of your friends will be assaulted and it pains me to think about that. something needs to happen to change that number.
DeleteOne thing that surprised me was the rate of sexual assault. It's crazy to think that 1 in 5 women will experience it to some degree in college. Even if the definition of "sexual assault" isn't as severe as rape (in some cases) that's still an insane amount of people being assaulted.
ReplyDeleteThe second thing I found shocking was how hard it was to prosecute someone being charged for rape. Only 63% of the assaults are reported to police, and then you only have a few of those actually leading to jail time. That's ridiculous especially if it can take up to 2-4 years to finish the trial, and in that time only 1/3 of people accused of rape are expelled and only half suspended. You can get expelled and suspended for less here at Antioch.
I one hundred percent agree with you. That rape is going at an exponential rate. Rape reports need to be sent in as soon as possible, but even though you report it a couple cases actually go through.
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ReplyDeleteTwo facts that shocked me about the article was when they only gave the boy 6 months in jail because it wasn't considered as rape. For it to be rape he had to have raped her with his penis, but he had raped her with his fingers. It's also shocking about California's definition of rape is very narrow. It's not considered as rape if the victim is not penetrated with a penis. I don't think that's right. If it was with either a penis or a foreign object by force and the victim is saying stop and the person penetrating the victim doesn't stop, it should be considered as rape.
I agree with you because, I think if I were to put myself in the raped persons point of view it would be very uncomfortable to have been raped, looked for justice, and received none. it takes a lot of courage to report a rape attack and for the law to do nothing it just isn't right. That's not law to me.
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DeleteCeriah Hudson 3A
ReplyDeleteI was very shocked about to hear about California's definition of rape. Regardless on if he used a foreign object(finger), or his sexual organ if it wasn't consensual then it's rape in my opinion. The sentence time shouldn't have been reduced because of that reason at all.
Secondly I was shocked by the short amount of time he was sentenced in jail. He's done a lifetime amount of emotional & mental damage to that girl and he's only being held for 6 months. That's just not right in my eyes because she'll always have that horrible memory that'll live on with her forever.
I agree with you, using any type of body part or object to sexually assault someone that is not wanting , is rape! Everyone should have the same punishment if they commit the crime . I was also shocked about the short amount of time Brock Turner got sentenced , just because he was a college student and had "goals" he is not any different than any other ordinary guy that commits the crime of rape so therefore he should be sentenced a very long time just as other criminals are.
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DeleteI don't agree to your definition of rape. What you explained sounds more like sexual assault than it is rape. Rape is sexual intercourse without consent (must be opposite sex based on state laws), but sexual assault is any sexual contact that is forced on somebody (by a man or woman). Either way, I feel like these sexual crimes should be dealt with better by the government, and also by schools since they're hiding these crimes.
Iman Khoshnaw 3A
ReplyDeleteBrock Turner sexually assaulted an unconscious woman, and he was only sentenced 6 months, but only spent 3 months on good behavior. This scared me. Someone dealing drugs is sentenced to years in jail while a sexual assaulter only get 6 months? Legally, Turner isn't a rapist. This needs to be changed so he and others can be sentenced a more deserving time in jail.
The fact that only 63 percent of sexual assaults are reported, yet prosecutors often don't take the cases also shocks me. 63 percent is already a lower number than it should be, and still most of those cases aren't pursued. This is only helping the rapists. Our laws need to change, more of these criminals should be put behind bars. This rape culture cannot change unless our laws do.
Reta Manasa 3A
DeleteThe fact that he has been sentenced only 6 months shocks me! Shouldn't he be sentenced more? I agree with what you said. I think that these rapist should be charged more years in jail, not because it's illegal to rape, but to understand the outcome of it. Nice comment by the way!
Iman, I agree with you because "legally" just doesn't cut it. He DID assault her. I believe as a judge you should be educated and un-bias when it comes to your cases. "Helping" a rapist, or any other criminal for that matter, is not what we should be seeing on a daily basis.
DeleteGeorge Boktor 4A
ReplyDeletein fact nothing shocked me because I heard about that before but I think that`s the good way to make someone guilty to have a good evidence because that`s is a good way to be a good judge to some one what ever you did
but I want to talk about give advices to the girls and boys to know what they can do in this situations and how can they defense themselves and talk to the boys too
mina hakim A4
DeleteI agree with you in that last part girls should know what to do in that situations.
marcus tibbs 4a
ReplyDeleteI could not believe that brock turner is only going to be in jail for a maximum of 3 months and for rape though. Stanford university honestly should've been all over it especially since he was caught behind a dumpster. its horrible people would have the courage to penetrate a unconscious person. its also blows my mind that in some states "rape" is only if a male penetrates a female in the vagina. if a woman is penetrated in the anus then the person can only get charged with sexual assault. in some states lgbt people cant even be "raped" because of what the law says about heterosexuality.
I agree with this because turner should've got more time for the crime he committed. he didn't only rape her he did it while she was unconscious that's one hundred times worse. it is really messed up how they didn't see it as a big deal because he didn't penetrate her with his penis but with his finger.
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Two things that shocked me about the article was when they only gave the boy 6 months in jail because it wasn't considered as rape. It's also shocking about California's definition of rape is very.This is only helping the rapists. Our laws need to change, more of these criminals should be put behind bars. This rape culture cannot change unless our laws do.
I agree with you because hey put the boy 6 months in jail because it wasn't considered as rape. Tt was a rape.
Deleteone of the two things that shocked me reading this article is the amount of rapes that have been reported. this shocked me because they take so long to deal with the problem. something else that shocked me I how many rapes have been reported and they don't really see it as a big deal. most of them have been reported to the police and yet they don't really care for solving the problem. also it shocked me how they didn't consider one of the guys a rapist after raping someone.
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ReplyDeleteThe first thing that surprised me was that in North Carolina it is not considered rape if it was anal. That is so dumb. To me any sexual activity that was done without consent is rape. It shouldn't matter where it was if its not with consent it is rape. The second thing I found shocking was how short the rapist's sentences were. Brock Turner was only sentenced 6 months in A JAIL NOT EVEN PRISION. That is ridiculous! The victim has to deal with the fact that she was raped. She has to live her life knowing that she was raped and her attacker wasn't even sentenced a year. I'd be scarred for the rest of my life. She was raped but will not have any justice. I just thought that was horrendous.
I agree with you because as a victim you have to be forced to replay this act in your head over and over as you go through court and even long term. This does not go away, it's something that you will remember even though you want to forget. He was very wrong for doing what he did and even if he did penetrate her with his finger, it's still unfair because SHE DIDN'T WANT IT, IT WAS NOT HER CHOICE. He should have been sentenced with a RAPE charge and should have been sent to PRISON for what he has done. 3 months isn't even enough compared to the lifetime the victim has to replay what happened, it makes me sick and sympathetic towards the victims.
DeleteOne thing that surprised me was that after the drugs she was forced to take and the rape she received, they're still forcing Kesha to work with this man. I believe that one a woman should have the right to back out of this situation if it gets this bad, if she is forced to do these things and still make music that is injustice. Its sad that all she wants to do is make music but she has to work with her rapist. Then that passion just slowly died because she probably won't even feel comfortable writing music after these 6 albums. She has to be scared everyday until these albums are made that she can't get out of the situation and he can do what he wants. For that this very unfair and he should be charged for these crimes because no matter how high she is in the music industry, she's a human being and has the same rights.
ReplyDeleteAnother thing that surprised me was that Brock Turner isn't going to be charged with rape charges but with sexual assault charges. Just because she was penetrated with a finger and not a penis does not mean it's no rape. The victim did not want it and she rejected so that is forcing her to commit or do sexual acts which is rape. That's like saying you're not playing a sport you're playing basketball. Its the same thing because the definition of sports includes basketball just like the penetration of anything into a victim that doesn't want it is rape. He should have been charged with rape and had a longer sentence because this is also unfair because he gets to be free while his victim is still suffering from remembering the details of this crime.
I agree with what happened to Kesha that she is still scared and her case wasn't dealt with the right way. Tuner was a shock to many people, makes you guess does race matter that much against rapes? Rap charges need to get heavy and not light upon the one being charged.
Deletethe thing that shocked me the most was the 63% of sexual assaults are never reported to the police. something like that should be reported. people are getting raped almost everyday. people are getting heard by it. so why did they not reported it to the police. the send thing that shocked me was when they gave the boy only six months in jail because it wasn't considered as rape. he reped her with his fingers not his.... he deserved to get like 4 or 5 years of jail. it still considered as raped.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what you said about how the guy got only six months from raping a girl. It doesn't matter if it was with his finger. It is still considered rape. While others are getting up to years in jail from rape, I think it is unfair how he gets only 3-6 months and could even get out early.
DeleteStephanie Sauceda 4A
ReplyDeleteTwo things that shocked me while reading this article is one being that the rate of sexual assault was as high as 1 in 2. That's scary to read meaning that every one of two girls in college is raped . College should be a safe environment due to the fact that it's not free . Even if it was free it still should be safe for students to feel comfortable in the place that they are staying at . Another thing that shocked me was reading where it said that " Brock Turner is not technically a rapist because he didn't penetrate his victim with his penis." the definition the state of California has for rape is very foolish. Rape is Rape no matter what you use or what part of the body is included . If the person does not want to do what you want them to do and they are forced to do it , it is rape .
I do agree with you about the California law. It's still considered rape if you force the finger inside her though. Some colleges are safe.
DeleteThe thing that shocked me the most from this article was that 10.5 girls experience have forced intercourse by the time they finish high school. It doesn't make sense to me how men can just do it no problem. They don't understand how it feels for our bodies to be misused when it is symbolized as a temple. It shocks me how unreasonable and childish little boys can be I don't get it .
ReplyDeleteAnother thing that shocked me was how a person can get fingered and its symbolized as rape. The article was right rape doesn't have a definition. A foreign object is a finger? I feel as if rape should have something to do with a penis going into a girl . But then again rape to me is any type of forced sexual contact from one person to another. He only got six months for that when he deserved at least 2 or 3 years. The government needs to see and pay attention more to college campuses and school grounds.
Kayla Pungkeo 5B
DeleteI agree with you 100% because girls aren't giving respect to their bodies or themselves when they just let forceful intercourse happen. They don't speak up to say no to the situation happening. Also rape can be classified as lots of different types of intercourse, but anyone should be able to know when it's important enough to report it.
Abraham Lott 4A
ReplyDeleteOne thing that shocked me is Brock Turner isn't a rapist, legally. He was sentenced to 6 months but it was reduced to 3. He inserted his finger in her area and she didn't want it, that is forced sex and that is rape to me. It's insane that people like him get 6 months, killers get decades in prison, and to be honest, he deserves to be in prison for a longer time.
Another one that shocked me is how ridiculous the prosecutors are. They often do not want to represent the victim. The rapists are getting away and they don't help the victims, that's a shame. People like that should be locked up and they don't need to be in the campus/college. This whole state needs to change their laws period, this is unacceptable.
Rita Mikhail 1A
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Brock turner (if not raped)sexually assaulted someone who was unconscious. Either way, what he did was illegal. The judge didn't do their job correctly.
Zaed Taqi 4A
ReplyDeleteOne of the things that surprised me was that in North Carolina they think that rape isn't consider rape even if it's anal. I honestly think that any type of sexual activity without permission from the other person is considered rape. Standford University should've been all in the situation since they caught the person outside behind a dumpster. I think that it's rape if the victim is saying stop to anyone who is forcing them in any sexual way because it's wrong. I also think it's wrong that only 63% of rapes are reported to police because all 100% should be.
I agree with what you said. I think that we all need to come together and fight to stop rape. Victims don't need to go to sleep every night or go by their daily life knowing they got raped. I feel like rape isn't being taken seriously at universities.These people should learn that rape isn't an action that should be kept hidden. They should have male rape victims speak out. But since rape isn't being taken as serious as it should be, people aren't speaking out.
ReplyDeleteJohn Saleb 4B
ReplyDeleteOne of the things that really shocked me in this article was that when survivors do come forward, many prosecutors do not take their cases. Rape victims are people that should be supported heavily. Not supporting them just makes rape even more popular, and gives the people that rape more confidence to go ahead and rape even more. Another fact that shocked me in this article was that if a college finds a student guilty of sexual assault, they still don't usually expel them. Again, this just gives rapers more and more confidence. Something as horrible as rape should have a very harsh punishment. If rapers rape and just go on with their day, they will want to rape more because they know nothing will happen to them.
Adrian Rodriguez 1b
DeleteI agree.In colleges nothing really is done to punish rapist. If they get punished it is usually a prison sentence that is less than a year.
Reta Manasa 3A
ReplyDeleteTwo things that shocked me from this article is the fact that 63% never reported and that the ratio is one to two. Reading that is just shocking! Student's shouldn't go to college to get raped. Where are the college securities, shouldn't they do something about this? If there's no support than there's no jail, which makes rape in colleges something normal. Another thing that shocked me is how court treats these situations. The boy was only sentenced six months in jail. This nonsense should be stopped sooner rather than later. These girls need support and that won't happen if they don't speak up and let there voices be hear!
I strongly agree with you Reta because you had specific details. The fact that the boy was only sentenced six months in jail shocks me too. I think people should help these girls. Nice comment.
DeleteTiara Armstrong 1B
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this article, I found alot of key points and issues that the author discussed. I found it shocking how high the numbers of rape in colleges and universities were. It made me think back to looking up different colleges and their numbers of sexual assault crimes were. It made me a little unconfortable because the author also mentioned how alot of colleges hide reported sexual assualt crimes so that their number wouldn't be high.
Nathan Kmeper 1B
ReplyDelete63 percent of sexual assaults are never reported to the police. this shocked me because if people realize this then there may be more rapes because the girls aren't reporting them. "Its hard to get a guilty verdict in sexual assault trials." Its crazy because when someone does get the courage to come forward about what happened sometimes they are not even believed.
Abnoub Aiad 1B
ReplyDeleteTwo things that shocked me from the article was that the students getting raped don't pursue immediate action until after a month or so. I think that as soon as the incident happens you have to let someone know as soon as possible. Because they will guide you during this critical period of time. The other thing that shocked me was that given that more than 4 out of 5 knew their attackers. That means that maybe making a lot of friends around the campus might not be a great thing. Keep your friends to a minimum, like not everyone you meet has to be your friends.
David Rizkalla 1b
DeleteI see it as peer pressure. Also most victims didn't report which is a critical point. The victims don't consult anybody they just put actions into their own hands.
Adrian Rodriguez 1B
ReplyDeleteOne thing that shock me is how the rate of sexual assault in some colleges in 1 in 2. I never thought that rape could be that high in colleges. Another thing that shocked me is that rapist are getting very short prison sentences. I think that rapist should be getting at least 4 years in prison. I wonder why they are getting short prison sentences.
Tre Brewster 1B
ReplyDeleteWhat really shocked me reading this article is a former student Brock Turner wasn't counted as a rapist under California law because he only used his finger. I was born in California and I had no idea how broad the law was when it came to sexual assault. Another fact that shocked me was that 63 percent of crimes of rape are never reported. Women are state that unreported rape crimes are because they fear of not being believed.
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ReplyDeleteThat Brock Turner situation shocked me too. And I feel like that law in California is ignorant.
DeleteDavid Rizkalla 1b
ReplyDeleteOne of the things that shocked me was how most girls didn't even report the assault. Maybe because of peer pressure. Also how the assaulters didn't get major prison sentences. Even though they committed horrible crimes.
I agree that most girls didn't report because of peer pressure. They should report it but most are scared to get rejected and bullied and are ashamed. Colleges don't like to have sexual assault cases on their name, they try to minimize the problem so they wont get convicted.
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Crystal Raymond 4B
ReplyDeleteWhat I found intriguing is that rape is differently defined across legal systems. Some systems limit rape to be only between a man and a woman. Others may define it even more narrowly to exclude many various situations. Another thing that was that prosecutors may not take a rape case if it is unlikely to win over a jury. This shocked me because it implies that many prosecutors only care about winning and looking good instead of actually caring about the victim's case.
I completely agree with you about rape being defined differently across the legal system. As well as how it can exclude many situations. Its pretty messed up to think about
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Dalton Conn 4B
ReplyDeleteFirst off probably the most shocking fact of this entire article was right at the start. The thought and fact of every 1 in 5 women getting sexually assaulted at college is crazy. Its a terrible thought and even then, at some colleges its 1 in 2 women. Another shocking fact is that in many places the attackers get off easy because its hard to define rape properly. Its upsetting to think someone could sexually assault someone and completely scar them, then get off by technicalities.
I agree with what you are shocked with. I was also very shocked about what you mentioned. Rape is a case that shouldn't be ignored. Everyone should pay attention to what's going on in campus.
DeleteI also agree with you. The idea that your classmates are at risk is scary. This is not just a person to person problem. But one we should work on and stand up to as a community.
DeleteAustin Southivong 4B
ReplyDeleteThe first thing that shocked me is the rate of rape going around. It was said to be every 1 out of 5 women that get raped. The second most shocking thing I read was that only 63% of rape was actually reported. Also it was said that of those reports only a few Assailant actually get jail time for like half a year. Rape is going around at an exponential rate and only some people actually get prosecuted.
I agree with how shocking it is that the rate of rape going around is so high. It's terrible how oppressive the statistic is. I also think that jail time should be given more often to rapists.
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DeleteOscar Hernandez 1b
DeleteI agree, the rate at which women are raped is shockingly high. It's sad how the rapist doesn't get a longer sentence for raping; the consequences don't match the crime. She sentences should be longer.
Adrian Gomez
ReplyDeleteOne of the things that shocked me about the article is that even after colleges find students responsible for sexual assault, they usually don't expel them. I thought once they found the assaulter, they would have them expelled. Another thing that shocked me about this article was that when survivors do come forward, prosecutor often don't take on their cases.
Make sure even on your responses you put your name on your comment. If you get a notification from my email to follow you on Google+, please disregard. I was just trying to figure out your name. I have it now.
DeleteJennifer Lopez- 4B
ReplyDeleteThe first thing that shock me is that 1 out of 5 girls may experience sexual assault at college. Out of that 1 , 21 percent are undergraduates. The second thing that shocked me was that ex-Stanford student Turner, wasn't accused of rape because technically he didn't put his penis in her. I believe that he should of been accused of rape because she said no and no means no and she was also forced which that is raped. California should stop narrowing the definition of rape.
I agree with you 100%. California needs to stop narrowing the definition of rape. No does mean no. I get why the colleges don't believe the girls, because they believe that they should have enough control over what they drink and how much they drink. The ex-Stanford student Turner, knew what he was going to do, he had to thought it out, including the consequences, and had it planned all the way out.
Delete"Given that 4 out of 5 rape victims knew their assailant experts believe, social pressures play a large role in why rape goes unreported." "Women in college have also identified fear of not being believed, not being sure whether what they experienced was a sexual assault and not wanting family or other people to know about the incidents as reasons for not reporting." Those are the two things that shocked me. I can see why they don't report it, because nobody may want to hang around them or they may get called explicit things. They may start to get picked on more. They may get put on social media. Social pressures make it harder because they may have been raped, but they didn't report it because they didn't want to stand out. They may have got told that their family members were going to get injured. She may have too much stress on her life if she goes and tells, which leads to possibly suicide. They are also the weaker vessel, and they may have had something in their drink, or may have been on drugs when the incident happened. Somebody could also persuade them to think that it was their fault instead of the rapist so that's another scenario, that could have happened. Regardless touching somebody's body without their consent, or if they say stop, no, and their being serious it is considered rape, so it is sad.
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ReplyDeleteOne of the two things that shocked me is how the victims are treated. How afraid people are to come forward about their situation and story. The thought that its a shameful and taboo thing to admit to being raped or sexually assaulted blows my mind. Another thing is how easily the people who do these things get off. Its just a slap on the wrist for something that could ruin a persons life. Criminals should be punished. Not just a slap on the wrist. Something serious so they never do anything like that again. Maybe that would stop all these crimes.
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I agree with you on the victims not coming forward about being rape. Like why would they want to live with something like that instead of getting help and putting the criminal away. They should be punished harshly because this is not a thing people do,its disgusting and insane of actually seeing people doing this. If I was a judge I would have sent them away for life or done worse.
Angelina cruz
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One of the most shocking things that I saw in this article was that around 1 in 5 women may experience sexual assault at college. They don't get to speak out because they feel like they did wrong in getting in that type of situation. People define rape in many ways that they think is right. Their really isn't a big definition of rape they take it as it wasn't rape due to no actual contact .Like in Turners case he used his fingers and a foreign object to rape his victim. This caused a big chaos in whether he did wrong or not. The most shocking thing is that they don't punish them hard enough they are very lenient towards different races. While others suffer more time due to racial problems.
Edilberto Orozco 4b
ReplyDeleteOne thing that shocked me as I was reading the article was that most survivors do come forward, but yet the prosecutors don't often take on their case. This happens because most prosecutors are willing to take the risk but most often prosecutors will take the case if he or she knows that he or she will win the case. I think that is not right. All prosecutors should take the case even if its a win or lose because the victims need all the help they can get. Another thing that shocked me was that rape is the most underreported crime. This is shocking because rape is a big thing going on and most people ignore and thinks its not important until they become the victim.
It's is shocking that prosecutors won't take cases because of them thinking the jury won't side with the victim but they don't have a right to chose before the jury has spoken. That is true rape is very common but the least reported, it's a very big deal because rape can happen to anyone and it is important to come forward about it. Some people have even committed suicide because of how emotionally hurt they became after the incident.
DeleteTwo shocking things from this new article is how vague the laws for rape are. They should take into consideration of how mentally and psychically hurt someone can become after a sexual assault no matter how little the assault was it can still leave a huge impact. Another shocking fact is that prosecutors won't take action upon their statement. There was one cause that wouldn't be taken because they didn't the jury wouldn't side with the victim.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jose Perez because he said that people get mentally and psychically hurt from rape. This is true because a girl or even a boy can commit suicide from being talked about. Boys and girls both can get rape so think about peoples emotions.
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DeleteJose has a good point so I agree with him because he said that people get really hurt from rape and it should be handled because girls or boys can commit suicide.
DeleteTania Cruz 4B
ReplyDeleteone of the most shocking things that I read in that article is that there could be a lot of different definitions to rape which i think its not fair because rape is rape and there shouldn't be a way out to it. I don't think its fair for people to be giving rape different punishment, I think they should of be given a fair punishment for what they have done because I don't thinks its fair for girls to get raped and the guys get no type of punishment.
I agree with Tania. There should not be different 'definitions' to rape. If a female says no and the guy still keeps going that is rape. There should not be anything stopping him from paying what has done to the female. It is not fair to the female because getting raped is something serious and its not like you can get over it the next day.
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Alan Phasavath 5B
ReplyDeleteThe facts in the article shocked me. The main ones that shocked me were that 1 in 5 women get raped or sexually assaulted. It shocked me because I didn't know that many many had a situation like this at that large of a number. Another one that shocked me is colleges try to cover it up. If I was a college I would let it be known so we can come to together to stop the problem not keep it a secret. These facts are a surprise to me and things should be changed.
I agree with you because rape is a huge problem that we are facing. I also agree because we need to try to stop this problem that we have, by starting in schools.
DeleteWhat shocks me is there's really not a major penalty for rapist. Especially if they say they were both drunk. rapist don't even get more than 6 months if they don't have a lot of proof behind the case or they don't even get punished. I think they should take more action in getting people like this off the street. But people are so corrupt now a days no where is safe.
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DeleteKayla Pungkeo 5B
ReplyDelete2 facts from the article that shocked me were how California law doesn't see Turner as rapist, because "he didn't penetrate his victims with his penis." He was only charged with a sexual assault, but in my eyes he's qualified as one since the victim didn't want it. The other fact was how long the rapist was sentenced to serve. Turner was suppose to face a decade, but instead 6 months & good behavior could him 3 months or less. How is that even possible, because he should be convicted with right charge and serve the a longer time. His rape victim has to live with fact of being raped all their lives.
You are right, the state of California is wrong for not classifying Turner as a rapist. But you also have to remember that every state is different and all states are selfish and lazy to address major problems they face. And the reason why they aren't given long time in prison is because they are the people of tomorrow who will "improve" this country. I'm not defending anybody, I'm just looking at how they actually see things.
DeleteThis article had a lot of shocking facts, but two that stood out to me were that people got charged different jail sentences for the same crime. Another one is that most of the rapes happen in colleges, and people aren't doing a lot things to protect people in the area. I know some people are trying to stop it, but they are still happening.
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DeleteThose facts also shocked me especially the one with the jail time for the same crime. They should both be treated equally so they should give them the same time whether it be longer or shorter for either two. People are also protesting about it, but I don't think they have much of an effect.
Karen Escobar 4B
DeleteIrvin the two facts that shocked u, also shocked me. I am totally shocked about people who got charged differently for the same crime they committed , crime is crime and it should be paid off equally .Last the largest number that rapes occur in are in colleges. Collage is full of different people. Not everyone will have good things in them. shocking!
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DeleteOne out of all the facts that shocked me is that they gave the guy six months in jail.It was not considered rape, In my opinion any type of sexual activity that was not wanted by the other is rape , no is no. I was also shocked that 1 through 5 women may experience sexual assault in college. College is a learning environment and it is one of the places that most rape is going on and that is not right.63% of sexual assaults are never reported ,people choose not to report it, and that is just sad, that shouldn't be happening.
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ReplyDeleteRapes at college is something very important but people do not treat it with much importance. This is huge issue. There are two things that shocked me. First of all, I did not know 1 out of 5 females get raped. It is shocking to know that many people are experiencing this. Another thing, I found shocking is that 63 percent of sexual assaults are not reported to the police. That is more than half of the rapes. It is sad to know females are going through this and they have no one to talk to of the fear of not being believed. Everyone that has raped a female should pay for what they do because it is not something you can forget about the second day.
Reta Fouad
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One thing that was shocking was how they sentenced Brock Turner. He served half of his original jail time due to a because government law that gives inmates credit for time served. He should've went to a state prison instead of a jail. His sentence was too lenient because he raped a helpless unconscious woman behind a dumpster, and only got 3 months in a jail. Also, another shocking fact was how colleges/universities don't expel the students who commit these sexual crimes. Schools should deal with these students in a better way. They should get these students expelled. They keep these students in the school and expect for it not to reoccur. It puts a bad reputation on the school, and leaves nobody safe.
Rita Mikhail 1A
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One shocking fact I read was how a lot of universities do not punish their students most of the time for the crimes they do. The least that should happen is that these students get expelled. Another shocking fact was how Brock Turner got off the hook easily. He raped a woman, got sentenced for 6 months in a jail, then served 3 months. For what he was accused of, he should've served life.
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I strongly agree, because whatever you are responsible for you should get punished for. Also I like the fact that you mentioned that the least that should happen is that these students get expelled. Brock Turner shouldn't have got off the hook that that easily. His punishment should've been more than just that.
The first fact that shocked me was how many women get sexually assaulted while at college, 1 in 5. I think that this is a huge problem that probably doesn't get as much attention as it should . Maybe if we made more people aware then it wouldn't happen as much. Another fact that disturbed is how some places define rape. I think rape should be when any sexually act is commited with physical force no no consent form the other person, if they don't like it.
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The first fact that shocked me was that the campus, and the security do not do anything about it. they do not even believe the girls and they always believe the boy like the girls are nothing . The second fact that shocked me was they did not do anything to the boy like kick them out of school or arrest them they just left them with out anything and that's a really bad I idea because now the boys will continue doing what they had done because no one stopped them or show them the girls have someone to stand up for them.
Mariam Abdelsayed A1
DeleteI agree with your point that the college campuses may appear to take the rapist side more than the victims, and for sure campuses and courts should do more and be more responsible and look at the victim's side more . This need to stop and start standing for the victims more .
savonna arhin 3A
ReplyDeleteThe fact the schools these victims attend and law officials don't do much about these cases isn't only shocking, its also horrifying. No one should have to deal with something like that on their own. They deserve justice, just like a family would whose loved one was murdered, or like a victim of a theft would. they're all just as important. Secondly the sentencing these rapist get are a joke. What is 3 months in jail or 6 months in jail going to do? These criminals shouldn't be allowed to walk the streets. It does the victim no justice nor does it do the community any service as well.
One of the most shocking things that I read in that article is that there could be a lot of different definitions to rape which I think its not fair because rape is rape and there shouldn't be a way out to it. The second fact that shocked me was they did not do anything to the boy like kick them out of school or arrest them they just left them with out anything and that's a really bad I idea because now the boys will continue doing what they had done because no one stopped them or show them the girls have someone to stand up for them.
ReplyDeleteTwo things that shocked me about this article was how colleges don't report any rapes due tot he fact that they don't want the reputation of their school to become a bad one, they don't care for these situations because they feel like half of the rapes aren't even rapes and some even say that if they didn't actually rape them then it isn't rape. That is totally not fair because no one deserves to even get close to getting raped. Another thing that shocked me was how when guys rape on campus the school half of the time doesn't even tell them to leave the school, their solution is just for the guy not to get close to the victim and expect the victim to be okay with that knowing their rapist is still on the loose and could attempt to do it again. In all I'm just really shocked by the way rape in this generation is handled, they obviously don't see that rape is a serious matter and it affects the victim making them commit suicide. Most of the suicides there has been were for rape or bullying. its just sad how they cant put a stop it.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. They need to be punished even if its the slightest type of rape. They should listen no means no. they shouldn't have the power to traumatize women and make them feel worthless just so they can get off. its not right.
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ReplyDeleteThe first fact that shocked me was why a school takes so long to report a rape or decides not to report it. If a girl or anyone gets raped it's illegal and should be reported. Some people get away with crimes when they shouldn't and people suffer by it. The second fact that surprised me was that the people that rape them don't feel anything for their victims. They don't feel what their victim feels and they don't feel the guilt of their behavior.
Nurissa Rashid 4A
ReplyDeleteWhat surprised me the most was the fact that California and many other states don't consider it rape if they've used "foreign objects". It really blows my mind that Brock Turner is doing 3 months in jail even though he was caught by TWO people and the girl was unconscious. In my opinion rape is rape no matter what objects you use and especially if the victim is saying no or is unconscious. Another thing shocked me was that in most cases the student who commits the assault isn't expelled from the school. They get suspended in most cases and even if they do get expelled, it doesn't go on their transcript. It's just really sad that these victims barely get any justice and they have to live with knowing that they've been raped.
Mariam Abdelsayed A1
ReplyDeleteThe first thing that blowed my mind was under the California law Turner is not technically a rapist and he will not spend more than three months in jail even though he sexually assaulted a woman on Stanford university . The second thing that shocked me is that many victims don't pursue a legal action against the rapist it's been estimated that more than 63 percent of the rape cases have never been reported to the police , this is a really huge number!
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I agree with your Point that it's a big percent of the rapes that didn't been reported and it's something bad that the girls did not report something like that or that even the campus cared about the girls and their problems.
Aram Jimenez 5B
ReplyDeleteWhat shocked me was how our country defines rape. This country is so out of control in that every state has different laws and how everything is defined. It's basically saying that if I do something illegal here in Tennessee, it would turn to a small offence in a different state. The other thing that shocked me was that 63% of sexual assaults are not reported. I don't see why they don't report it. Are they afraid of being told a liar or the rapist coming back? Seriously, they can call anonymously so the person can get convicted.
THE first thing that shock me about this article it was about that California and other states don't consider rape as a rape they consider it as "foreign objects" rape is rape no matter what's Thas what I think if somebody force you to do something that you don't want that's rape aslo if a girl say no it's not.The second thing that shocked me it was that 63% of rapes are not reported like why I know they scared but still all those who raped girls needs to go to jail.
ReplyDeleteI agree with her when she says rape is rape no matter what.I think that if america wants to resolve rape they should all be on board with one definition of what or how rape is considered.With several states convicting rape differently it allows many people to get away with rape.
DeleteI agree with her when she says rape is rape no matter what.I think that if america wants to resolve rape they should all be on board with one definition of what or how rape is considered.With several states convicting rape differently it allows many people to get away with rape.
DeleteOscar Hernandez 1b
ReplyDeleteThe first thing that shocked me is that 1 out 5 women get raped. I thought it would be a bigger number. Rape is a big issue and the statistics support this. Another thing that shocked me was that California defines rape as only using the penis and doesn't consider foreign objects. It is rape if the person doesn't consent to it, no matter wht it is.
Artemio Santamaria 1b
DeleteI agree with your definition of rape if the person does not consent it is rape. Rape is a big problem and to me 1 in 5 women in a college get sexually assaulted is a lot. That is saying if 5,000 girls go to a college 1,000 of them will get raped that is a lot and a huge problem which needs to be dealt with.
Artemio Santamaria 1b
ReplyDeleteRape is such a cruel thing to experience with many people unfairly charged. The crucial part is that in a college 1 in 5 women will experience sexual assault that number is a problem. There should be more justice in cases to stop it from happening with bigger consequences. Another problem is what is considered to be rape like in Brock Tuner case who was charged with a count of three felony charges. If he was charged in California he would not be a rapist technically because he did not penetrate with his thing but with a foreign object. That is unfair and to think of many rapist in California getting away with a lesser punishment for doing same thing a Brock Turner.
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DeleteJuan Sanchez 1B
DeleteI agree that rape is indeed a cruel thing and also that there should be a bigger consequence for doing so.People that think about raping think of so because there isn't a big consequence on people who are rapist.Another thing everybody should be punished for doing anything at force even if he did it with an object instead on his thing.
David Romero Lopez 1B 09/07/2016
ReplyDelete"63% of the victims from rape don't ever talk about it", it really shocked me because that's a high number and they are only counting the ones from colleges. I am really not that much surprised because people are always afraid of what the society will think of them if they say they have been raped. Society is really corrupted, of course there will be people who will say bad things about you even if you don't say anything, but that doesn't mean that you should keep quiet.
"Less than 5% of completed or attempted rapes were reported to police officers". It just keeps coming up over and over again, the number of brave women who dare to look for justice. don't be afraid of what people think about you if they knew you were sexually assaulted, be afraid that if you don't do anything the same thing could happen to someone you dear to you. So don't be silent brake those chains of fear and look for justice with the thought that you can help to save others, and ovoid them form going through the same fait as you did.
The two most shocking facts are that Around 1 in 5 women may experience sexual assault at college.I would of had thought it would be like one in ten.but one in five is a lot even though it is college.Another fact that shocked me was that 63 percent of sexual assault is not reported to the police.That is over half of sexual assaults that aren't reported to the police.that a lot of rapist getting away with it and going to jail for it.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this comment. I like the wording you use
DeleteGoing into this I didn't think much would shock me because its no secret that rape isn't taken as seriously as it should be. Thought I was surprised when I read that the definition of rape isn't the same in all places. The word rape brings a pretty universal understanding that someone was assaulted in a sexual act without consent. Its hard to understand that someone can sit at a podium a act so lenient towards a person who created a physical and emotional trauma to another. Another thing I didn't know about was how a student who commits a crime of the type, they "usually aren't expelled." A student could have been accused of cheating and in a blink of an eye, hes out. But this student who will effect this other person for life gets away with out even a smack on the wrist.
ReplyDeleteI strongly agree with how rape is a universal definition ,and that many different states have diverse opinions on what rape means. If the victim says no they mean no. You have no consent after the word no leaves their mouth. I also agree with how surprising it is that a judge is so okay with a individual that has caused so much emotional hurt.
DeleteI think that you are completely right in the aspect of believing that rape has a universal meaning. Lenience towards these people isn't something that should be tolerated. Understanding that these victims are severely hurt, more acts should be taken to provide them with the justice they deserve.
DeleteI agree with everything you wrote it is crazy how a student who raped somebody "usually aren't expelled" but when someone cheats they are. Colleges don't take rape as serious as it really is in my opinion.
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ReplyDeleteOne shocking fact that I noticed is that Turner got charged with three felony accounts of sexual assault, but yet he is not a rapist. He is technically not a rapist because he used a finger instead of penetrating the female with his penis. I feel that he should be a convicted as a rapist it does not matter what or how you penetrated a woman, if she says no she means no. No means no! Something else that surprised me in this article is that North Carolina does not consider anal a part of their rape laws. Neither did New York until 2013. Honestly, I disagree strongly with these facts especially because the women have a choice on if they want "it" or do not. Referring back to the previous fact ,if she says no she means no.
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The first fact that surprised me and made me physically ill was that in some colleges 50% of women have reported being sexually assaulted. This concerns me personally because my sister is currently in college and I believe I need to buy her a tazer now. the second fact that surprised me was that some victims don't take legal action. this concerns me because this can leave a rapist on the street ready to go again.
Capri Finch 1B
ReplyDeleteWhat really surprised me in this article was how few of the students who commit a sexual assault gets expelled. It honestly baffles me that people with power (like a judge)can just allow someone to get away with doing such a life changing crime, that really affects some ones life for the worse. It really makes me stop and ponder if the judges even have remorse for not considering the victims feelings at all when they allow the sex offenders go free, without suffering any type of consequence for their wrong doings. The other thing that shocked me was that public offenders don't take on victims cases. I feel like its kind of idiotic and trifling to not try and help the victims because if the roles were flipped they'd expect help.
Marissa Pearson 4b
ReplyDeleteone thing that shocked me was that at some campus's 50% girls are sexually assaulted I knew that sexual assault is high but I didn't know that it would be half the girls that go to the school. Another thing that shocked me was how most of the students who commit the crime nothing serious happens to them most don't even get expelled from the school, its almost like the colleges don't care.
Two things that shook me in this article is that women who are rape are afraid to report it because they think people would think there lien or won't believe them. Also these women know who rape them is a sad thing it could be someone that trust and that person just took advantage of them. It's sad that 63 percent of people have never report to the police that they where rape, by not telling this give the rapist opportunities to do it to a other women when not reported immediately.
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ReplyDeleteTwo things that shocked me about this article was the 63% of sexual assaults of people who never report to the police, and that the rate of sexual assaults was a high as 1 in 2 in some of the schools. 63% is a high percentage. This percentage will keep on increasing if people maintain quiet and do not report to what is going on. The other, is that 1 out of 2 sexual assaults exist in some schools. This shocked me the most because it is literally the half. This is crazy!
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One of the things that surprised me the most was the California law against rape. The way the California law defied rape is like telling the victim that their story is lie. Its like telling a women that she wasn't raped because the man wasn't on top of her or because that he only used his hands. It doesn't matter how they defined rape if a women says "no" then its no or else it's rape. Because it still leaves a mental and emotional scare. The other thing that surprised me the most was how society stops sexual victims from telling their stories because of the way they treat victims. The sexual victims not being protected by the law because the law is only giving three or four months for a man, when the women is spending her entire life trying to forget what happened to her.
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ReplyDeleteThe California law Turner is not technically a rapist and he will not spend more than three months in jail even though he sexually assaulted a woman on Stanford university . The second thing that shocked me is that many victims don't pursue a legal action against the rapist it's been estimated that more than 63 percent of the rape cases .They deserve justice, just like a family would whose loved one was murdered, or like a victim of a theft would. they're all just as important sexual activity without permission from the other person is considered rape. Stanford University should've been all in the situation since they caught the person outside behind a dumpster. I think that it's rape if the victim is saying stop to anyone who is forcing them in any sexual way because it's wrong. . this was just not a good outcome in my opinion . I hope its not anymore cases like this .
Magdalene 3A
ReplyDeleteIt shocked me about this article was how colleges don't report any rapes due tot he fact that they don't want the reputation of their school to become a bad one, they don't care for these situations because they feel like half of the rapes aren't even rapes and some even say that if they didn't actually rape them then it isn't rape. That is totally not fair because no one deserves to even get close to getting raped. Another thing that shocked me was how when guys rape on campus the school half of the time doesn't even tell them to leave the school, their solution is just for the guy not to get close to the victim and expect the victim to be okay with that knowing their rapist is still on the loose and could attempt to do it again. In all I'm just really shocked by the way rape in this generation is handled, they obviously don't see that rape is a serious matter and it affects the victim making them commit suicide. Most of the suicides there has been were for rape or bullying. its just sad how they cant put a stop it.
Mervana labib
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First thing that really shocked me was that many victims don't immediately and may never pursue legal action against their attackers. It shocks me why a victim would give up their right and not try to fight and get back what they deserve. It stated how rape is the most underreported crime. Which is a shame because the more they let it go and never immediately report it, the more it will cause rape to happen. Also another fact that got me shocked was how even after colleges find students responsible for sexual assault, they usually don't expel them. Every student that was responsible for sexual assault should be punished. They should also include it in their transcript. So other colleges could be aware.
I agree that every student involved in the sexual assault should be punished. It isn't fair to still give them the opportunity to continue college because the should have thought of the consequences before being ignorant.
Deletemariv gergis
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it's true most school don't anything. these people should be in jail and kicked out of school. and I believe that he deserves more punishment than what he is getting rape regardiess .
Amany makram
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One of the things that shocked me the most was when survivors do come forward prosecutor often don't take on their cases. For example, a prosecutor told a college student that he wasn't going to take the case and told her that a jury would not take her side. It's shocking how rape can be seen as a normal thing. Another thing that shocked me was around one in 5 women may experience sexual assault at collage. The rate was 1:2, this number itself is just shocking. 1 in every 2 women get raped. 21 percent of undergraduates were raped in U.S college Universities.
Hanan mina
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Nothing shocked me because I heard about it before. In my opinion anything that the boy or the girl doesn't want to do anything sexual assault is still rape.That is very shocking sexual should not occur at all. College should be a safe place for everyone.
Hanan mina
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Nothing shocked me because I heard about it before. In my opinion anything that the boy or the girl doesn't want to do anything sexual assault is still rape.That is very shocking sexual should not occur at all. College should be a safe place for everyone.
All this does not surprise me that now all that sexual assault happens: now is a common theme, but really this happens not to have a safe place and in my opinion and schools should be safe places.
ReplyDeleteI think another reason is the behavior of each person and sometimes excessive use of your social level that you develop with people you do not know.
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ReplyDeleteI was very surprised when I heard 63% of sexual assaults are reported to police. People that get raped want the person that did it in jail. I totally agree. When people get raped they can have flashbacks all their live and have fear or be uncomfortable in certain situations. More people need to speak up when things like this happen to them. Another thing that surprised me is that students that are found guilty of rape still get the privilege of college and things like that, they don't deserve It .
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DeleteI agree with you. When people can not go back for getting raped. Or if they do then its going take a while to get over. There are a lot of people who need to help and take up for others or themselves. Because if nobody does anything then this will continue to be a problem.All this does not surprise me that now all that sexual assault happens.the two facts that shocked me the most is 21 percent of female students have reported that they have been sexually assaulted since the beginning of school.Another thing that surprised me is that students that are found guilty of rape still get the privilege of college and things like that, they don't deserve It .
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ReplyDeletethe two facts that shocked me the most is 21 percent of female students have reported that they have been sexually assaulted since the beginning of school. I honestly think that universities should try everything in their power to prevent this from happening they should have support groups and security that is always on stand by at all of the college partys and other events. Another fact that was shocking to me was the California law against rape ,my honest opinion is that any type of unwanted sexual attention rather its penetrated unwanted sex its considered as rape of the mind body and soul. any unwanted sexual attention is rape to me. In Brock Turner case he was found guilty of 3 counts of sexual assault, in the article is stated that under the California law he isn't technically a rapist ? what's the difference he still forcefully harmed a woman sexually! rather he penetrated or not if the sexual contact is unwanted and forced it is rape!!!
I do agree with you when you said they should have support groups for the rape victims.
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ReplyDelete21 percent of female undergraduates they have been sexually assaulted this shocked me because that is a lot of violence. It also shocked me because that is a lot of people been assaulted. Rape is the most underreported crime that shock me because people do not take responsibility for their own actions. It also shock me because lots of these problems are not solved.
What shocked me was that only 63% of sexual assaults are reported. Thats bad because so many people get raped and some people don't report it because they're either scared or they are scared that people won't believe them. I think sexual assaults should be taken more seriously and something should actually be done so that all of this can be stopped. Someone thats been raped is going to live with that for the rest if their lives and will always be scared and traumitized. Something needs to be done so that the people raping others get the punishment they deserve.
ReplyDeleteI think that campus rape are very serious because there on there on an it can go on as long as people don't come around an see an that people are really wanting to kill there self over this type of problem that is really hard on the people that's its happening to
ReplyDeleteI think that they need to pay more attention to campus rape. What really shocked me was that 63% of sexual asaults were reported to the police. Which means that there's a lot of girls out there being raped. Campus rape should no longer be ignored. They need to act and do something about it. Girls are out there having really bad flashbacks that will have all there life's. They are losing people because they can't take it any longer and decide to commit suicide.
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Deletejackie jacobo 4b
ReplyDeleteTwo facts from this article that shocked me were the way women get unfairly treated when they report a rape and the injustice being done when the assailant is convicted for their crime.Women are told to report rape but the truth of it is that the only reason for them not doing so is because when they do they're either not belived or ignored.When the assailant is convicted for their crime they are usually not convicted fairly.They usually get sentenced to a small amount of time so it makes others feel as if they can do it aswell becuase the penalty wont be that much either way.
I agree with Jackie because I think that women should be taken seriously when they report a crime. Women shouldn't be scared to tell people about what happened to them. They should tell a friend or the police when something like that happens.
DeleteGeorge K 1A
ReplyDeleteI agree with what you said. Victims are scared that if they do report a rape, they won't believe the victim. Also lots of women don't want to report a rape because they're scared of what their parents or what others would think of them.
George K 1A
ReplyDeleteThe two facts that shocked me is that 1 out of 5 women may experience sexual assault and that the victims don't report their attackers. One out of 5 is a high percentage, that means anyone that I know can be raped. I'm surprised that they don't report it immediately and sometimes not at all. People need to start reporting it as soon as possible so they can take care of the case.
Onterin Halfacre 3A
ReplyDeleteI believe that the rate of how many girls are getting rapped is crazy. I honestly don't understand why it is that high. 21 percent of female undergraduates have been sexually assaulted. Another fact that surprised me was the 1 in every 2 girls. 50 percent of girls at the school were sexually assaulted which is crazy. If I was a girl I wouldn't even want to go to college.
I believe they don't take college rape... or even rape period as a serious problem. This problem may make females not even want to further their education. 21% of college undergraduate females have been raped in some kind of way. Just because a boy doesn't pull his penis out, doesn't mean it's okay. "No" still means "no." The excuse "boys will be boys" needs to stop.
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ReplyDeleteIn my opinion anything that the female or the male doesn't want to do anything sexual is still considered rape. Just because its not the way the orthodox way of doing it doesn't make it right for anyone to do such a thing. I think We need some people to open up or its just going to be always in our minds. Everyone needs to be against rape because it's not fair for some people.
One thing that surprised me from the article is that 21 percent of women had been sexually assaulted within in the beginning of their school year. That percentage may not be a big amount but that is a crazy number for it to have just been the beginning of the school year. I think that the schools should be more attentive and make sure that they are supporting the victims and warning the newcomers of the school. Another thing that surprised me was that 63 percent of sexual assaults aren't reported to the police. That is insane. I feel as though the victims should be able to tell and not be afraid of what can be said about them because it can save the next person's life or give them courage to tell their story also.
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